First Teaser Info for S6 'Silver Lance' and 'Jet-Black Spirit!'

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  1. Diego Lima Aspiring Trainer
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    The whiny drama, with the same people trying to beat the same dead horse, with the same lack of conscructive commentary, and the same unnecessarily abrasive and very often just outright disrespectful remarks about other perfectly polite community members is getting really tiresome, I freaking kid you not.

    So...let's try and talk about the actual card... I think if anything, it's interesting. The effect is definitely strong, and like others have pointed out, it has some obvious synergies with Scroll of Scorn. That being said...at the current moment I'd be hard pressed to justify adding more clunkiness into an already "somewhat clunky" deck. So far all Single Strike decks, Urshi, Primeape and solo Tyranitar really depend on Houndoom to function, and unless down the road some form of Single Strike strategy that doesn't rely on Houndoom exist (I doubt it), I don't think it's worth it. Again I'm caught wondering if they'll give us some type of Dive Ball, Heavy Ball, etc, for Single and Rapid Strike pokémon down the road, but I don't think so, it would probably be too good. It's the only thing I think could maaaaaybe add consistency enough that it allows for a line of Abomasnow to be included in a deck where you ideally want 3 spots on your bench dedicated to a specific line. Either way it's a cool card and people will definitely at least try experimenting with it a bit.
     
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  2. Charmaster:) The Cube Master, Charmander fan, & Lapras rider.
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    Personally I would prefer not to put a support Pokémon directly into the line of fire unless it was good enough to be worth attaching precious Energy to it and moving it into the active slot, so bench sitting isn’t so much of a problem for me. But I suppose there are definitely situations when being able to attack would be great (although it’s not as if this Pokémon is going to survive most Boss combos long enough to attack anyways.)
     
  3. Charmaster:) The Cube Master, Charmander fan, & Lapras rider.
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    First of all, if stadiums discard the current stadium when put into play, aren't they hypothetically easier to discard once you get them, since you can just keep on putting down a new one to discard the old one? And second, do you technically HAVE to evolve Galarian Meowth into Galarian Perrserker for its ability to take effect, because if not, Galarian Meowth would actually be really powerful.
     
  4. Shinxed3 Get Shinxed bro
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    Hmm. Nice effect, I guess, but why can't it get a good attack if it's own Ability doesn't benefit itself...?
    It feels like TPC has been designing waaaaay too many Stage 1 support Pokémon with vanilla attacks.
     
  5. Dragon TheDragonEmpire
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    Man!my Wish for Volcanion v was fulfilled
     
  6. The Rhyperior I am still Mr. Rhyperior
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    Yes. But how about the ability to accelerate energy? Placing Damage Counters can give you some advantage in various tricks. Like the Scroll of Corns for example or SS Urshifu from CHR. Also, SS Urshifu VMAX takes 4 energy to use its second atk. So the dmg counters is thete and we don't care about it.
    Who cares about HP Buffing when the opponent can make ways around it?
     
  7. jamashawalker Ikouze!
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    If that was the case, who cares about any strategy when your opponent can make ways around it?

    If my opponent plays tool scrapper/tool jammer. Good on them for building their deck building skills, we now have a metagame of back and forth with interaction.


    *COUGH* Level Ball *COUGH
    *COUGH* creating the definition of Rule Box pokemon *cough*

    Three specific cards though...
    Cherim
    Golisopod
    Level Ball
    Twin Energy
    Mad Party
    Familiar bell
    Pokemon breeders nuturing
    Bruno
    Memory Capsule
    Celebi/Manaphy(Since they arent that good in VMAX decks)

    Woops more than 3

    While these arent particulary limited to only single prize evolving decks, Alot of them have very poor usage in multi prized decks.
    For example, cards like Bruno is bad in a VMAX deck because you'll only be able to use it once or twice a game in a specific moment where it probably wont have much of an impact during that specific turn.
    While cards like Pokemon Breeders Nuturing are not that good. It is literally meant to be used for evolving.
    So yes this answers your question. WHETHER THEY ARE SEEING PLAY OR NOT, they are literally designed for evolving decks.
    And if you want to play semantics on the last 2 sets...That is really not fair considering there wasn't much support for any archetype in vivid voltage.
     
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  8. jamashawalker Ikouze!
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    To stick and focus on Abomasnow though...

    I'm definitely looking at this and going hmmmm with Slowking VMAX. 370 HP Tank (400 with Giant charm) that doesnt need energy acceleration from houndoom. It stays out of range from the two shot game from 180 damage. That's pretty neat imo.

    While it is fighting weak, the only fighting pokemon that has seen success so far has been Rapid Strike Urshifu VMAX and even that can't One Shot it lol While it can stick on a scroll and one shot urshifu back.

    That might be a good experiment to try out
     
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  9. MagnaDrake Aspiring Trainer
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    Then you run into a problem where if there's an effect that nulls your abilities, Abomasnow turns into a Frosmoth.

    On paper the card is super interesting. Not entirely sure if its competitively viable (arguably it doesn't have to be) but it's definitely a cute 1-of in some Single Strike decks. If we have a single-prizer only format this would be pretty insane. 170 HP Primape comes to mind.
     
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  10. AdorableGengar Gengar fan
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    Yes! So happy about this!
     
  11. Charmaster:) The Cube Master, Charmander fan, & Lapras rider.
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    If you find the format this frustrating, why not stop playing entirely? Or why not try playing Expanded? Unlimited? Legacy? Theme Deck? Draft? Cube Draft? Sealed Cube? Mutant draft? Mutant CUBE? Elite? Singleton? Evolution? Pauper? The Lackey Pokémon TCG Custom Plug-in? Or even play a completely different TCG? It’s clear that all that the current state of the standard format is doing is embittering you and making your life miserable, and instead of taking out your emotions on everyone else, perhaps you would find it beneficial to remove this source of frustration from your life?
    I know this is probably none of my business, but I want to help, so I’ll just say this one and let you take it or leave it. My suggestion is take it, I think you will feel a lot happier without this source of frustration in your life, but it’s your choice to make. I’m just pointing out the fact that there are plenty of options and trying to help in any way I can.
     
  12. Charmaster:) The Cube Master, Charmander fan, & Lapras rider.
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    But there are still plenty of other formats, even if they aren’t all on the Pokémon TCG online.
     
  13. Charmaster:) The Cube Master, Charmander fan, & Lapras rider.
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    https://discord.gg/RTTpkgJP
    https://discord.gg/NVFQAAxe
    if you are ever interested in trying out Lackey or Cube respectively, check out these discord links.
    Just remember that discord invite links expire after a while, so if they expire by the time you decide you’re interested (if you decide at all), I can share them again if necessary.
     
  14. Charmaster:) The Cube Master, Charmander fan, & Lapras rider.
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    Both the Lackey format and the Pokémon TCG Cube Draft formats I shared are online formats.
    (Plus if you personally know anyone else who plays the Pokémon TCG you could TRY playing over Zoom. I’ve done it before, it’s not the best but it’s decidedly better than nothing. Granted you would then need the actual cards unless you decided to use proxies.)
     
  15. bbb888 One Life. One Dream.
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    I feel like this comment section is getting a little out of hand. This thread is about Abomasnow and other revealed cards from Jet Black Spirit and Silver Lance.
    If you want to voice your opinion about the current format, you may do so in a friendly manner in another thread. I'm not an admin, but I'm sure they would agree with me.

    Also, we still haven't seen V-Onion cards. I wonder what they could be?
     
  16. Charmaster:) The Cube Master, Charmander fan, & Lapras rider.
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    Did you mean to say V-Onion on purpose?
    That’s kinda sus.
    Still, I agree that it’s taking the Pokémon V an awful long time to get unionized. ;)
    They’re probably saving it for the special set.
     
  17. JustInBasil Grass-Type Gym Leader
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  18. The Fish 0.o
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    No way. 'Tengoodbye'. The puns are on point. PLEASE keep that as the translation in English

    edit: I love how Shiftry's just flying hundreds of feet above ground. Just casually. Because why not.
     
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  19. The Rhyperior I am still Mr. Rhyperior
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    @Toinelay, one of the major translators from this site, translated this as "Shiftried Away", which is funnier to see. Either of the two won't make its way on the official translation anyways.
    • Shiftry - stage 2 and too awkward. It has some decency here and there. so watch out. Stage 2 tho. Rosa will be rotated. 3 Geodudes
    • Grapploct - we have a ton of switching options right now, at least it nullifies Air Baloon. 3-4
    • Hypno - bad first atk, bad second atk if you let to remove the special condition, unless that attack KOs. 3
    • Weavile - I don't know how will this thing works. 3-4
     
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  20. The Rhyperior I am still Mr. Rhyperior
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    [​IMG]
    this has "Tengu" in the initial translation from this site.
     
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