Ruling Fainting Spell/"The Defending Pokémon"

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Gliscor Lv. X's "Night Slash" Attack says that "You may switch Gliscor with one of your benched Pokémon". Now, if I KO a Gengar with Night Slash, which goes into effect first, Fainting Spell or Night Slash? Fainting spell reads "if Gengar is KO'd by damage from an attack, you may flip a coin. If heads, the Defending Pokémon is Knocked Out."

If I switch Gliscor Lv. X with one of my benched Pokémon, is it true that it is no longer "The Defending Pokémon" and now a benched Pokémon, so Fainting Spell wouldn't come into effect? I ask because we've got a ruling where if you KO a Gengar with Uxie, you can put it to the bottom of the deck before Fainting Spell comes into effect. So, my 2 questions are:

~If I switch Gliscor, can my opponent Fainting Spell first, or not since technically, the switch is still an effect of the attack?

~Since the switch is an effect of the attack, would they get to Fainting Spell whatever I sent out after the switch?

Thanks for your answers in advanced!
~TPO3
 
RE: Fainting Spell/"The Defending Pokémon"

There is an errata on Gengar that has been changed, it is the attacking pokemon the one that the poke power works.
 
RE: Fainting Spell/"The Defending Pokémon"

If Gengar is on the bench and gets knocked out, does his effect still work? It doesn't say anything about him having to be active ...
 
RE: Fainting Spell/"The Defending Pokémon"

Yes, it still works. Whether Gengar is on the bench or not, if he gets KO'ed by damage from an attack Fainting Spell works.
 
RE: Fainting Spell/"The Defending Pokémon"

You switch the pokemon first,and then your opponent uses fainting spell,because you resolve all effects of the attack first.
 
RE: Fainting Spell/"The Defending Pokémon"

infmach said:
There is an errata on Gengar that has been changed, it is the attacking pokemon the one that the poke power works.
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When did THAT errata come through? Can you show it to me?
 
RE: Fainting Spell/"The Defending Pokémon"

If you use an attack that switches your active with one of your benched pokemon to ko gengar, gengar still gets to flip for his fainting spell. If the flip is head, that pokemon is now ko by fainting spell.
If you want to see proof of this ruling, I will gladly edit this post to show you the proof.

From Compendium:
* Gengar is receiving errata for its Poke-POWER, "Fainting Spell". Fainting Spell affects your opponent's Attacking Pokemon, not your Defending Pokemon. The correct card text should read, "Once during your opponent's turn, if Gengar would be Knocked Out by damage from an attack, you may flip a coin. If heads, the Attacking Pokémon is Knocked Out." (Nov 7, 2008 Pokemon Organized Play News)

Q. Gengar's "Fainting Spell" Poke-POWER says when it's KO'd by damage from an opponent's attack to flip a coin and if heads "the Defending Pokemon is Knocked Out". But since Gengar was acting as the "Defending Pokemon" when it was attacked what does this mean?
A. To clarify, if the coin flip is heads, Fainting Spell causes the opponent's Attacking Pokemon, which KO'd Gengar, to be Knocked Out. (Oct 30, 2008 PUI Rules Team)

Q. If I use Uxie's "Psychic Restore" attack where it does 20 and puts itself into the deck, but Gengar's "Fainting Spell" Poke-POWER would knock out Uxie, what happens?
A. If you choose to put Uxie in the deck with Psychic Restore the attack completes first, and Gengar cannot return the knockout. However, if you do not put Uxie in the deck, then Gengar's Fainting Spell would Knock Out Uxie if the coin flip is heads. (Oct 30, 2008 PUI Rules Team)

Q. If Gengar is KO'd by a Pokemon using some kind of hit & run attack, does Gengar's "Fainting Spell" Poke-POWER target the new Defending Pokemon or the one that just attacked?
A. The one that attacked and went to the bench would be KO'd if Gengar flips heads. (Oct 30, 2008 PUI Rules Team)

Q. What happens if I Knock Out my opponent's Gengar using some kind of hit & run attack, but I bring up Glaceon Lv.X with the "Chilly Breath" Poke-BODY that shuts down Poke-Powers?
A. The Chilly Breath would shut off Gengar's Fainting Spell before it would have a chance to be used. (Jan 15, 2009 PUI Rules Team)
 
RE: Fainting Spell/"The Defending Pokémon"

Sure why not? It's not that I don't believe you, it's just that there's been SOOOO much contreversy at my tourney center with this. ;)
 
RE: Fainting Spell/"The Defending Pokémon"

The Power of Three said:
infmach said:
There is an errata on Gengar that has been changed, it is the attacking pokemon the one that the poke power works.
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When did THAT errata come through? Can you show it to me?
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http://www.go-pokemon.com/op/news/articles/46.html
Gengar is receiving errata for its Poké-Power, Fainting Spell. Fainting Spell affects your opponent's Attacking Pokémon, not your Defending Pokémon.

The correct card text should read:

Gengar (Stormfront, 18/100)
Fainting Spell
Once during your opponent's turn, if Gengar would be Knocked Out by damage from an attack, you may flip a coin. If heads, the Attacking Pokémon is Knocked Out.


EAT THAT!XD
 
RE: Fainting Spell/"The Defending Pokémon"

Even if you have 1 prize card left and so does your opponent and he or she ko's Gengar you still can flip and if heads it's a tie game and you go to sudden death :O
I did this at BR :D
 
RE: Fainting Spell/"The Defending Pokémon"

dragonexpert said:
You would take your prize card first because you have to resolve the attack first. Therefore, you win the game before your opponent would get a chance to use Fainting Spell.
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THAT IS WRONG. It would go to sudden death

http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=99453
 
RE: Fainting Spell/"The Defending Pokémon"

To see who wins the game, you first have to resolve all the direct effects of the KO of said Pokemon. For instance, if you'd win the game by Reckless Bombing for 6 prizes with Electrode G (and I'd like to see you try, btw) but your opponent only has 1 prize left and Electrode is KO'd, it goes like this:
damage -> effects of the attack -> check who is KOed
So basically, the Electrode would first receive the 100 damage and only after that you'd both realize that you can pick up all your prizes.
This was a slightly different example than Gengar's Fainting Spelll, but basically the PokePower is a direct effect of the attack (since Gengar received enough damage to be KOed) and therefore must be resolved first before any result can be confirmed.
 
RE: Fainting Spell/"The Defending Pokémon"

The Defending Pokemon is your opponent's Active Pokemon.
By ruling, you must resolve the attacking Pokemon's attack's effect. Then apply effects on the Defending Weakness, Resistance, etcetera
 
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