Eelektross in ZPS? Seems like so

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Eelektross – Lightning – HP140
Stage 2 – Evolves from Eelektrik

[C][C] Acid: 30 damage. The Defending Pokemon can’t retreat during your opponent’s next turn.
[L][L][C] Wild Charge: 90 damage. This Pokemon does 10 damage to itself.

Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 3


Now, looking at it's first attack, it's kind of ok, could be used in synergy with Pokemon Catcher, but not all too much. Now, looking at it's second attack, Wild Charge, it seems like the perfect card to be using in ZPS.

1. It deals damage to itself, making it very easily usable with Reuniclus, as you can then spread the damage to Zekrom.
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2. It may be stage 2, but if you have a good hand, and no zekrom, you could set this up T2, and be hitting for 90, which could definetely knock out a lot of Basics/Stage 1's in the format.
3. With Shaymin/Pachirisu, the energy cost is the same as it would be for Zekrom, and could be hitting for 30 less than Zekrom would be, but still hitting for a decent amount of damage, while setting up Zekrom.
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Drawbacks:

1. Fighting Weakness makes it stand no chance to Donchamp
2. High retreat cost is somewhat of a problem, but since Catcher is confirmed for the next set, most decks will have a copy or two of switch anyway.
3. Stage 2, but then again, if you have the right hand, you can set it up T2 and hit for a nice amount of damage, and then swap the damage off to Zekrom for it's Outrage.

So tell me, what do you guys think of Eelektross in ZPS?
 
I'm not seeing it. Zekrom is a basic, does more damage, and has Outrage. While being able to prevent retreating is cool, it isn't worth the extra space. Besides, you said that if you open up with a really good hand without Zekrom you could just setup Thunder Eel. Not running Thunder Eel could help with the deck's consistency, so you could open with Zekrom more often.
 
I could actually work because of the stage one being SO good in the deck
Eelektrik - Lightning - HP90
Stage 1 - Evolves from Tynamo

Ability: Eelekidynamo
Attach a Lightning Energy card from your discard pile to one of your Benched Pokemon. You can only use one Eelekidynamo Ability per turn.

[L][L][C] Lightning Ball: 50 damage.

Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
 
Yeah, that's one of the other factors in this deck. The Stage 1 is absolutely amazing, creates great Energy Retrieval, and can still hit for a nice 50.
 
Oh wow, the Stage-1 is actually pretty good. In that case, I wouldn't recommend a huge line, maybe 2-2-2 at most.
 
Gliscor said:
I'm not seeing it. Zekrom is a basic, does more damage, and has Outrage. While being able to prevent retreating is cool, it isn't worth the extra space. Besides, you said that if you open uP with a really good hand without Zekrom you could just setup Thunder Eel. Not running Thunder Eel could help with the deck's consistency, so you could open with Zekrom more often.

I agree.

piplup234 said:
I could actually work because of the stage one being SO good in the deck
Eelektrik - Lightning - HP90
Stage 1 - Evolves from Tynamo

Ability: Eelekidynamo
Attach a Lightning Energy card from your discard pile to one of your Benched Pokemon. You can only use one Eelekidynamo Ability per turn.

[L][L][C] Lightning Ball: 50 damage.

Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2

:O, wow.

I still wouldn't run it because its Catcher bait.
 
glaceon said:
Gliscor said:
I'm not seeing it. Zekrom is a basic, does more damage, and has Outrage. While being able to prevent retreating is cool, it isn't worth the extra space. Besides, you said that if you open uP with a really good hand without Zekrom you could just setup Thunder Eel. Not running Thunder Eel could help with the deck's consistency, so you could open with Zekrom more often.

I agree.

piplup234 said:
I could actually work because of the stage one being SO good in the deck
Eelektrik - Lightning - HP90
Stage 1 - Evolves from Tynamo

Ability: Eelekidynamo
Attach a Lightning Energy card from your discard pile to one of your Benched Pokemon. You can only use one Eelekidynamo Ability per turn.

[L][L][C] Lightning Ball: 50 damage.

Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2

:O, wow.

I still wouldn't run it because its Catcher bait.


At this rate, everything is catcher bait. Plus, you shouldn't be using it late game, so in the begining of the game, its fine, as not much can do 90 T2/3
 
Don't even run Eelektrik. You're trying to cram a Stage 2 line where it's not needed. If you really want to, you could throw a 1-1 line of Tynamo and Eelektrik in there, but Eelektross isn't good. Zekrom needs the limelight in this deck, and throwing more techs in there just takes away from the point of the deck.
 
ZPS is supposed to be a fast deck. It's inconsistent enough with just putting Yanmega Prime in, and the deck doesn't even need Energy Retrieval. Why would you add Rare Candy to a deck running basics?
 
win said:
ZPS is supposed to be a fast deck. It's inconsistent enough with just putting Yanmega Prime in, and the deck doesn't even need Energy Retrieval. Why would you add Rare Candy to a deck running basics?
Erm Yanmega just gives it consistency, in current format you really can't just rely on donking. Eelektross is not good but it's stage 1 is.
 
I think Yanmega is a back-up attacker more than a tech. I've seen 2-2 in lists around, it's really that Resistance that is handy against Donphan and gives the deck a Fighting chance (pun _definitely_ intended).

Eelektrik is interesting. I'm not sure it's all that useful since Zekrom doesn't discard the Energy in the first place (a Stage 1 for Fire Energy...oh lawdy), but I definitely think Eviolite/Archeops are much better options when you stack up their usefulness as techs together.

dmaster out.
 
Well if Donphan wasn't in the format, Yanmega wouldn't be in 90% of the ZPS decks. Therefore, it's a tech against Donphan, even though it's almost always run in 2-2. It's just the choice tech because it isn't necessarily dead draw in other matchups.
 
There are other Fighting types in the Format, not just Donphan. Techs are usually for one deck (and are usually one copy cards, not six+ considering Copycat/Judge are used as well...), but Yanmega has such versatility that it can snipe Babies in any deck. It's a secondary attacker.

And now, the thread has officially been derailed lol. Back on topic.

dmaster out.
 
Charganium said:
You could run 3 Tynamo, 3 Eelektrik, and 1 Eelektross.

Then again, if Memory Berry is reprinted...

If memory berry is reprinted, you still wouldn't be able to use the stage 1's ability. Only it's attacks. If memory berry was reprinted, I doubt it would get much play.
 
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