omahanime said:With the seeming syncing of TCG
XY should be a double set in Japan, will English set be a double set?
How will Decks and Promos be handled?
Machamp the Champion said:
Reggie McGigas said:Machamp the Champion said:Umm... no, Celebi is not good. There really isn't a good partner for Celebi EX. And constant 2 free prizes for your opponent is very bad.
Look at Celebi's ability.
I'm kinda hoping this set gets released with the shiny colection in two mini sets like dragon vault.
Can you actually name a good exploiter of that ability besides Charmeleon or Vibrava? (and even then those two are just 'okay'.) The ability is good, but the problem is that nothing can effectively use it.LOL
Look at Celebi's ability.
signofzeta said:(a whole lot of good points about differences in the Japanese and International TCG market that I'm snipping because it's long)
signofzeta said:Just asking, but how many of you think that the international market adopting the Japanese style of Pokemon TCG products and vice versa is a very very bad idea since, I don't know, the whole xbox 720 always on #dealwithit?
Only cardfight vanguard is the game that I could think of where the style of products between Japanese and the US markets are the same. I don't think CF vanguard will grow to the size and popularity of MTG, YGO, or Pokemon TCG, unless they cater to the US market, but I don't think Bushiroad is looking to go big yet.
To me personally, I think it would be a very bad idea to adopt the Japanese style of selling the TCGs. Other than box sets, we have a more predictable release schedule, and you can ensure that there are 8 precons every year, that contain 60 cards, and the same stuff inside for each precon. In Japan, they sometimes release 6 precons a year, 2 precons the next year, and maybe 4 precons the next, and some may be half decks while the others are full decks.
Looking at Yugioh OCG and TCG, you could see a relationship between their sets and structure decks, where to the point that the TCG uses the same name as the OCG boosters.
Maybe for Japan, they might decide to adopt our naming system, or try to force TPCi to use their booster naming system. It may be a long shot, but they might stop doing the whole 2 boosters to pick from style of marketing to ensure that their and our booster pack names are the same.
Looking at Japan Pokemon TCG and US Pokemon TCG, they are vastly different that there seems to be a barrier preventing any communication between them, but for XY and beyond, I think that barrier might be broken, and that there has to be a middle ground. One of them being that rather than releasing sets only for half the year, and precons only for the other half, they might spread them out evenly, and associate precons with their sets, although I know of no Japanese TCG that associates precons with sets. That is a WOTC thing that Pokemon TCG adopted, which is one of the things that I want kept with the Pokemon TCG in the US.
Oh, haven't you heard, even in places like France, they don't even have Plasma Storm out yet, at least I think they don't.
I mean, look at these 2 links
This is the US Plasma Storm page
This is the France Plasma Storm page
As you can see, we already have plasma storm out. They don't have theirs until May 8, 2013. So not only are the US behind Japan, but some European countries are behind the US.
Artemis said:signofzeta said:(a whole lot of good points about differences in the Japanese and International TCG market that I'm snipping because it's long)
I do think you raise some good points, and I likely see some sort of middle ground being reached between the Japanese and International releases of the TCG markets, if they do decide to sync up.
(Disclaimer: I know nothing about any other TCG/CCG system, and I've only started collecting again in the past couple years, so all of the information and feelings I have to go off of are based on recent events)
As much as I, personally, would love to see the International Pokémon TCG releases match their Japanese counterparts, I don't honestly expect it to happen, even if the sets are synchronized. What I think will happen instead is some things being synchronized, some things being pushed back, and some things not getting released Internationally at all.
The following paragraph is entirely speculation, but I think that, if they do decide to synchronize the sets, the main sets themselves would be the only things actually synced up: Japan gets XY1, everyone else gets XY1. Where I think the differences will come in are in the other products: the precons, the gift sets, the promos. I don't think the International market will release the precons the way they do in Japan, with exclusive cards, etc. I think the International market will likely continue to make their own precons just like they do now, always a full deck with cards from the current set. The exclusive cards from Japanese decks and other Japanese promos (like their own gift sets and promo packs) will be released in International gift sets (who knows, this may even encourage TCPi to try and do a couple new things with their gift sets) or saved to be put into the following set. Also, any double sets Japan gets will likely be squashed into a single larger set internationally. Things like the beginning set would probably also get squashed into the next International release instead of released individually, except maybe once or twice if TCPi is feeling adventurous.
I wonder how much money TCPi made from the International release of Dragon Vault. Knowing some numbers about that may help us guess how much they might be willing to attempt to branch out in the future.
SoulWind said:I think I speak for all of us when I say I am disappointed over not getting Suicune-EX.
Machamp the Champion said:
bagoly14 said:I would be severely disappointed if the English and Japanese sets get synced. Would that mean that the TCG would be synced for the whole season? I don't like the idea of not being able to have Japanese Full Art cards before the English FA are released; it would drive the value of Japanese cards down pretty badly because they would lose their exclusiveness at time of release...
ECHOxLegend said:Machamp the Champion said:Umm... no, Celebi is not good. There really isn't a good partner for Celebi EX. And constant 2 free prizes for your opponent is very bad.
Out of all my games with flygon/Landorus EX/Dusknoir/Celebi EX, I have never lost b losing Celebi, its always been because of my dumb plays, but quite a bit of people are hesitant to attack him for some reason.
Reggie McGigas said:DNA said:Can you actually name a good exploiter of that ability besides Charmeleon or Vibrava? (and even then those two are just 'okay'.) The ability is good, but the problem is that nothing can effectively use it.
See, you just said yourself that there are Pokemon that can use it lol.