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UNITED STATES Even though it doesn't apply to my Pokebeach references, I have over 100 positive references (100% too!) on pokegym, so I'm an experienced trader. Wants: 8x Shaymin EX ROS 4x Rayquaza EX ROS 75 4x M Rayquaza EX ROS 76 7x Muscle Band 4x Raichu XY 43 4x Crobat 33 Haves: Merch: 2x...

RE: Future Metagame Speculation Ahh that makes a lot more sense! Thank you for clearing that up :P.

RE: Future Metagame Speculation I'm really curious on your math.. You know you can only run 4 of a card in a deck? That means a full bench of deoxys = 4 deoxys = +40 damage. Thundurus's first attack has a base damage of 30. That's 70 damage max, and with laser/bank it bumps it up to 100 for...

I've been testing this deck a lot the past few days, and it does NOT by any means auto-lose to hammertime. I tested against a darkrai/lasers/hammers list that ran 3 enhanced hammers and while they can hammerspam you, you can attach one energy to a thundurus, Raiden Knuckle for 30+any additional...

Makes sense. Kinda funny because this deck is like CMT without the C... (celebi prime). :S

I'll think and test out SAB. Would do you think would be the ideal start in my current build?

Should I maybe add another Landorus?

Ok thanks a lot! I'll make these changes and test them out. Also, should I leave my Landorus in? Thanx :)

Pokemon: 3 Terrakion NVI 2 Mewtwo EX 3 Tornadus 1 Landorus 1 Tyrogue =10 T/S/S: 4 Juniper 3 PONT 3 N 2 Sage's Training 4 Dual ball 4 Exp. Share 4 Junk Arm 3 Switch 3 Catcher 1 Revive 1 Lost Remover 3 PlusPower 1 Pokegear 3.0 1 Super Rod =37 Energy: 4 DCE 9 Fighting energy =13 Strategy is...

I don't have the funds necessary for the mewtwo EX :/..

Thanks a lot Jirachi for you're input. I updated my decklist with some of your suggestions plus some of my own changes that I found just weren't working out during testing. More input would be fantastic!

-1 zapdos +1 thundurus -1 Terakion +1 mewtwo EX +1 cleffa -1 PONT +1 sage's training use 3-4 tynamo/eel -1 N + 1 pluspower Seems like a lot but thats just my opinion on what works really well. I run a Zek/Eels similar to what the changes will bring you and its currently undefeated at my league :P.

Please note: This is a low budget deck (imo). Pokemon: 15 4-3 Eels 2 zekrom 2 zekrom EX 2 Thundurus 1 shaymin UL 1 cleffa Trainers: 30 3 prof juniper 3 sage's training 2 PONT 4 dual ball 2 super scoop up 3 Pluspower (might be adding another when i get one) 3 level balls 3 switch 2 Junk Arm...