Ancient Origins [8/15, aka Bandit Ring]

Wow, I've been waiting for something like Θ Double for quite a while... Too bad it's not a Stadium :<.

On the subject of Bad Energy, I was hoping for an Ability stopper on your opponent if the Pokemon Bad Energy was attached to was your active. (on another note, the name is just... lame.)
 
SaiScott95 said:
I forgot about rotation. But even then, you're using up your turn just to restore your hand with cards you can't even use until next turn. no damage output or anything. The attack isn't even free either. Gotta use your energy attachment for that turn.

Can only see it being too useful if you draw complete crap, your opponent uses a draw supporter right away, and it just happens to save your butt from getting 2-3 turns behind (you'll already be a turn behind using this anyway).
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I feel sableye will be a very situational tech not a good card on its own. However with vileplume with item lock coming in, having the option to essentially play 2 supporters a turn could be a way to speed up your deck when item locked. However again it would be a card you would only really want to play in those situations.
 
Pikachu6319 said:
Bad energy...well it seperates itself from Strong energy but goes way off from the original dark energy. At least Shield energy stayed pretty much true to the original steel energy.
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I consider there to be two positives about "Bad Energy":

1) Excuse for Michael Jackson References
2) Did not pull the same lame trick as Shield Energy by making a slightly nerfed version of an older Special Energy that was not even updated to keep pace with power creep.
 
I was sure the special dark energy card wouldn't be like the original special darkness energy as some people thought but I was expecting it would have some disruption effect which is usually associated with darkness-type cards (something like "when you attach this energy, discard 1 card from you opponent's hand" with or without looking, wtv is more balanced), not this... kinda meh...
 
Metalizard said:
I was sure the special dark energy card wouldn't be like the original special darkness energy as some people thought but I was expecting it would have some disruption effect which is usually associated with darkness-type cards (something like "when you attach this energy, discard 1 card from you opponent's hand" with or without looking, wtv is more balanced), not this... kinda meh...
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I hear ya; people have been speculating for a while. I was hoping that maybe it would grant a "Shred" like effect to a Darkness-Type with it attached... until I realized that would probably be too good given that Yveltal-EX is unlikely to be leaving the format anytime soon.
 
Bad Energy is... very appropriately named. As for Sableye, I actually think the card has some potential. When N is replaced with Ace Trainer following this season's (probable) rotation to XY-on, Sableye looks like a fantastic starter. It gives you effectively two supporters per turn while you set up your board and wait for it to die so you can then play from behind with Ace Trainer.
 
Sableye is one of those cards that will always need to be revisited as supporters are released. With the format on the cusp of slowing down, and a rotation approaching Sableye could prove viable somewhere down the line. It puts a lot of pressure on decks that use Xerosic/TFG atm as they are often susceptible to energy denial themselves, and i can see a lot of value in using N and Lysandre in the same turn.

Bad Energy will be unplayable if Enhanced Hammer, Ageislash ex, Cobalion ex, and Xerosic stick around, because its barely worth play over basic darks. If these cards rotate out or fall off, its an option. Id rather it just do plus 10, even as a strictly worse Strong Energy honestly.
 
I like both of them, though I can see only Sableye being played, and even then only a little. I'd probably play it in some capacity as an opener :p
 
The Sableye reminds me of Sableye(48/100) from Stormfront, albeit haveing very obvious differences. I am not saying that they're the exact same, or that this one is as good as the Stormfront one. I am just saying that they share a lot of characteristics. I can see this one being used as a starter or a support pokemon in decks that already run a source of Dark energy. As for Bad Energy, I will reserve my judgment until after we see the rest of what Ancient Origins has to offer. Who knows? Maybe there will be a reason to run it over basic Dark energy.
 
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I actually think Bad Energy will be decent with Yveltal. With Laserbank gone, there is a bit of less damage Yveltal would normally need to stay alive. Bad Energy could be used to cover this gap, put more damage when it is attacked. It shouldn't really be a prime target for Enhanced on Yveltal considering Yveltal also runs DCE, which does more damage.
 
Where are our other special energies like Water, fire, and electric/lightning type? I hope the next set is based around Suicune EX and that it includes special water energy. That would also benefit Swampert EX.

Then you will have Fire and Electric special energies left for the set after that one.
 
HA559 said:
Where are our other special energies like Water, fire, and electric/lightning type? I hope the next set is based around Suicune EX and that it includes special water energy. That would also benefit Swampert EX.

Then you will have Fire and Electric special energies left for the set after that one.
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With Mega Ampharos in this set, I wouldn't say a special lightning energy is entirely unrealistic right now.

Then XY8 can have special fire and special water energies which could work if we're getting close to Volcanion's official reveal.
 
Gruffling said:
With Mega Ampharos in this set, I wouldn't say a special lightning energy is entirely unrealistic right now.

Then XY8 can have special fire and special water energies which could work if we're getting close to Volcanion's official reveal.
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Special fire and special water may also work with Swampert EX and Blaziken EX in the next set if not Volcanion.
 
One thing I didn't notice about Hitoshi Ariga is that he is responsible for all of the full art supporters from Primal Clash (Archie's, Maxie's, Birch and Teammates) so he only started doing artwork recently but he definitely hit the ground running.
 
They look really nice! I love the artwork.
And it also makes me laugh, that Gloom's attack is called; "Drool" :p
 
The artwork is solid, but otherwise, not very interesting. Neither attack has any use and no abilities make them only there for Vileplume.

Low retreat cost is nice though

BibiTotoLover said:
They look really nice! I love the artwork.
And it also makes me laugh, that Gloom's attack is called; "Drool" :p
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It's right up there with "Bleh"
 
The artwork is great, I love how happy Oddish and Gloom are, makes them look adorable.

But what TheStrictNein said, these cards are just here for stepping stones for the ultimate goal of Vileplume and I really wish that Basic and Stage 1 Pokemon that can evolve would have niches of their own (like Eelektric NVI did). It would make the evolving up to stage 2 more interesting than just a Rare Candy away, skipping 1/3 of the line.
 
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