‘Celestial Storm’ Electrode-GX, Jirachi Prism Star, Stakataka-GX, Beast Ball, Elite Trainer Box!

Celestial Storm hits store shelves August 3rd and now we have our first look at English cards from the set!

Celestial Storm will be a combination of cards from Japan’s SM7 Charisma of the Wrecked Sky (96+ cards) and SM6b Champion Road (66+ cards). Beast Ball was a promo card released in Japan about six months ago.

The set’s Elite Trainer Box has also finally been revealed. Most of Celestial Storm‘s other product images have already been seen.

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  1. jessalakasam Floette is love Floette is life
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    No, it says, according to Pokebeach and many other translations I've seen, "Look at your face-down Prize cards. You may choose 1 Ultra Beast you find there, reveal it, and put it into your hand. If you do, shuffle this Beast Ball into your remaining Prize cards and put them back face down."
     
  2. Senorsmith Aspiring Trainer
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    Being a player in Japan, and not posting my reply until I looked at the physical Beast Ball card that I possess, I am confident that the translation I gave is accurate. Granted, the wording couldve been better, but all the key parts of information were stated.
     
  3. starg09 Aspiring Trainer
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    Hmm... So that card numbering is very interesting!

    On last expansion, I picked up a small hobby: Trying to estimate the setlist order, based on official cards being revealed in english. At least for the most part, the cards in our sets come from 3 places:
    • The main Japanese Set (In this case, SM7)
    • Depending on the set, probably a miniset released before the one just mentioned (Here, it'd be "Champion Road" or SM6a)
    • Eventual Japanese Promos that are included in our set (As Beast Ball in this case).
    Anyway, with this 4 cards I can finally start... And already can see some interesting info from just that. To begin with, the placement of both Jirachi and Stakataka shows we're getting 4 Metal Pokémon cards in-between them. At least for the SM block of sets, Pokémon cards release ordered by Pokedex number, with GX potentially appearing after the "Baby" versions (based on Sun & Moon Base). Now, that'd imply we're getting 4 Metal Pokémon between Jirachi and Stakataka, but we only get 2 of those from both SM6a and SM7! Checking promos, the only two ones that could fill that gap through that logic are:
    • Heatran (167/SM-P): A CoroCoro promo from the February 2018 issue. Different card from the UPR Metal Heatran.
    • Solgaleo (067/SM-P): A winner card for "Pokémon Card Festa 2017". The one with the ability that gives itself no Weakness when it has any Metal Energy attached.
    Assuming we do get that Solgaleo, I'd personally expect Lunala (066/SM-P) to also be on the set, since it's the one other card from that event that never got a western release.

    The second detail I found so far, knowing Electrode-GX's position, is that we may not get some of the cards in SM6a and SM7. Considering Voltorb as card #47 (for obvious reasons), there's 46 slots for all Grass, Fire and Water Pokémon in the set; however, those two sets contain 52 Pokémon Cards of said three types. So 6 wouldn't make the cut. My personal speculation would be for non Hoenn-native cards to be cut, and potentially moved to a future set (either Dragon Majesty, or our SM8 set). Another possibility is for some of the several repeating starters to be cut (like Torchic, which has 3 cards between the two JP sets!)

    May post again if I see anything else, but that's what I gathered so far. Hopefully we get more cards soon, that help clarify this a bit better!
     
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  4. Merovingian Expanded Extraordinaire
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    This guy gets it
     
  5. Duo Dreaming of a Milotic V/V-MAX
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    Really don't know how I feel about these cards.

    I feel like Electrode GX is actually just pointless in standard format. If it could attach energy to GX/EX Pokemon it would have uses, but it doesn't and I can't think of any non-GX attacking decks in standard format that would ever consider this. Not sure about expanded.

    Stakataka GX is cheeky, but you really don't have the bench space in UB decks, I feel. Outside of Buzzwole GX, most of them don't even have room for Zoroark GX. I feel that it would have to be a deck of its own running 4 copies and hoping to have all 4 out.

    I don't fully understand the ruling of Jirachi Prism Star. If your opponent plays Switch, would the new switched in Pokemon get KO'd? If Jirachi Prism is KO'd after it goes to sleep, does the defending Pokemon still get KO'd anyway? Either way, I don't know if I like 3 energy for that attack. It's just a heavy energy investment away from your main attackers.

    Beast Ball is an okay 1-2 of card in non-Dragon/Psychic UB decks that don't have a much better search engine in the form of Mysterious Treasure. I can't see anyone bothering to play it in UNGX outside of being scared of bad prizes.
     
  6. TheVong BikaBika
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    Double Electode GX + Evo Electrode + N, opppppppp
     
  7. Merovingian Expanded Extraordinaire
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    If we are talking about the Beast Box decks we know the construction of now. Then no. Stacks doesn't have a place there.

    You don't need Zoroark.


    Ding! Ding! Ding!

    There's no "hope". It's absolutely doable. I've had a proxied up a UB Stakataka deck since the spoilers first came out. You can EASILY get all 4 by turn 2.

    Now how it actually performs in the wild, I don't know yet. But it's comically aggressive and I love it. And I think it's post-rotation tier-1 material. I'll take it to the first Cup available to me.
     
  8. Merovingian Expanded Extraordinaire
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    If this card needs a ruling for this, I can almost guarantee that it'll be along the lines of 'intent'. Similar to how Apricorn Maker from Skyridge won't fetch Maxie's Hidden Ball Trick. Yes, MHBT DOES have "Ball" in the name. But the intent of the card was to fetch Pokeball-esque cards (The current one can only fetch Item cards with Ball in their name. That and the Japanese MHBT doesn't have "Ball" in its name).

    For this, the intent of Beast Ball is to fetch Ultra Beast Pokemon. Plus, the Trainers and Beast Energy Prism Star mention Ultra Beasts in their card text but don't have the "Ultra Beast" designation.
     
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  9. ForeverRanger91 Aspiring Trainer
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    As much of a waste of a spot it is, I am totally going to add a copy of Jirachi Prism Star to every deck I build just for the lolz.
     
  10. Sharkrai Aspiring Trainer
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    I was looking at an email just now from Pokemon talking about let's go preorder bonuses on the pokemon center website and scroll down to see the lele pin among others listed as new legendary pokemon pins haha
     
  11. The-Kaiser Starfleet Captain and Pokemon Trainer
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    I'll prolly buy the ETBs only cus Rayquaza being on them :)
     
  12. gumball51321 *thumbs up*
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    Effects are reset when a Pokemon switches, so if your opponent's active Pokemon gets switched at any point after the attack, the effect goes away. And because the effect is on the opponent's Pokemon, yes, they would be knocked out if Jirachi goes down.
    And yes, 3 Energy for an attack that is easily played around on a super frail prism that you can't get back is pretty asscheeks.
     
  13. PlatinumDude Aspiring Trainer
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    Rayquaza GX is one of the most promising cards of the set. I wouldn't sleep on the set just yet.

    The other highlights of this set are Acro Bike coming back, Fisherman being spared from rotation, Steven's Decision as a possible turn 1 supporter, and Swampert as a possible (but slow) budget deck.
     
  14. Duo Dreaming of a Milotic V/V-MAX
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    I think Rayquaza GX is a card that won't see its full potential until future expansions, and if we don't see some support for it (for energy) in a few expansions, it's probably just going to collect dust.

    We've rummaged over how to properly get the guy going in another thread (Beast Ring strategy with Xurkitree/Pheramosa GX, Dragon Storm Drampa, and Dragonair), but I don't think any of those options are good enough, and Vikavolt is just a terrible strategy altogether for the deck.

    I dunno, I said it when Crimson Invasion happened and I'll say it again here.

    Pokemon TCG isn't just designed exclusively for competitive, and I would much rather not see the meta shift to the latest and greatest BDIF every set that gets released. If this set is just here to curb the power creep for a few months, I'm totally okay with that.
     
  15. gumball51321 *thumbs up*
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    Well when you put it like that, yeah, I completely agree. It's probably a good thing the set sucks for the most part.
     
  16. OppositeAttract Aspiring Trainer
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    I think this set it has a lot of pokemon that could immediately have an impact on world's just as Golisopod and Gardevoir did at last years. Rayquaza is really good, Shiftry seems solid albeit a stage 2, Swampert seems interesting, and even Altaria/ Scizor or Stakataka could have potential in theory if people put in the work. Even Articuno and Quagsire (whenever it comes out) should help Lapras box.
     
  17. Dark Espeon Dark Avatar
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    Actually Rayquaza GX is a deck on its own with all the support it has in terms of Mysterious Treasure and Latios Prism Star. Play the deck and you will see that it rivals Malamar decks in speed and damage potential. Until rotation there is also Mew from Fates Collide to mimic Latios Prism Star. Compared to Malamar the deck is a little more weak to abilities punishment but less wek to ability denial.
     
  18. Cybno Aspiring Trainer
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    Loving Stakataka. <3
     
  19. thembert Aspiring Trainer
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    So excited for this set! ETB looks great!
     
  20. gumball51321 *thumbs up*
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    OH MY GOD. ELECTRODE GX WITH SUM ARCANINE. YES, ARCANINE MIGHT FINALLY BE PLAYABLE.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA