Discussion What is the "Best" Deck in Format?

Discussion in 'PTCG Competitive Play' started by NeedleKingSR, Jan 12, 2018.

  1. NeedleKingSR Night March is overrated
    NeedleKingSR

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    Now, I know that there are MANY things to consider in a deck, like whether or not it beats the biggest metagame threats, or if it's consistent enough. But every deck will always have some type of counter, even if overcomable, like Gardevoir GX vs. Metagross GX, but maybe unlikely. So, here are a few of my personal nominations and why.

    Decks:

    Gardevoir GX: Consistency: 7.5/10 | Damage Output: 10/10 | Versus Meta: 5/10 | Overall: 7.5/10 | Main reason why it's not rated so much higher is because ULP is on the brink of release, and then Garde's gonna die.

    Metagross GX: Consistency: 7/10 | Damage Output: /10 | Versus Meta: 7/10 | Overall: 8/10 | Just very consistent, while dishing out big damage. However, it just doesn't do enough damage nowadays, with Golisopod, Zoroark, and Greninja Break running rampant, and no real way to increase its damage output.

    Greninja Break: Consistency: 7/10 | Damage Output: 7/10 | Versus Meta: 9/10 | Overall: 7.67/10 | I personally haven't ever played this, but from what I can tell, it has a good chance against absolutely any deck in the meta, even Golisopod if you play correctly.

    Volcanion: Consistency: 9/10 | Damage Output: 9/10 | Versus Meta: 8/10 | Overall: 8.67/10 | I myself don't really like this deck, but I can admire the possible damage output. Absolutely wrecks Metagross, any Golisopod deck, and many others. Also, Steam Up allows for huge damage output when necessary. Just annoying to miss a turn 1 Kiawe.

    Golisopod GX (overall): Consistency: 10/10 | Damage Output: 5/10 | Versus Meta: 10/10 | Overall: 8.33/10 | Depending on the secondary attacker, it can handle anything. Garbodor can KO anything, Zoroark can dish out nice damage easily, and Golisopod itself can also dish out nice damage. However, without Garbodor, it's nearly impossible to OHKO any GXs.

    Buzzwole GX: Consistency: 9/10 | Damage Output: 9/10 | Versus Meta: 8/10 | Overall: 8.67/10 | One of my favorite decks, really fun to play and really easy damage early game. With both the ability to donk, and also dish out massive damage, and also on a Basic GX, it truly is overall a really nice deck type. I don't know why people think that Buzzwole's pretty bad.

    VikaBulu: Consistency: 6/10 | Damage Output: 8/10 | Versus Meta: 8/10 | Overall: 7.67/10 | Not one of my personal favorites, but I can admire it's potential. Personally, I found it too inconsistent. Nothing in the meta really destroys it since Bulu has no weakness, but some decks like Metagross are able to just storm this, with the only way to OHKO a Metagross being Choice Band + Kukui + 2 Dhelmise if anyone even uses that on Nature's Madness, and Metagross being able to OHKO with just a Choice Band. Not very consistent, but can hit 210 damage.

    Zoroark (overall): Consistency: 10/10 | Damage Output: 8/10 | Versus Meta: 8/10 | Overall: 8.67/10 | Probably THE most consistent deck archetype, with the attacker also drawing tons of cards similar to the Empoleon from DEX (?) and dishes out easy 120 damage, 180 in expanded, for only 1 energy attachment. Also, the other attacker in the deck can cover almost any weakness, Garb covering Buzzwole, and others like Alolan Ninetales GX and Lycanroc GX for other coverages.


    Feel free to make suggestions for changes and/or decks I might've missed.
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2018 at 12:27 PM


  2. HouchinsDJ Aspiring Trainer
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    Gardevoir has already been demoted to Tier 3 (according to Some1sPC League Cup Meta Snapshot for the month of December) and it has had nothing to do with the upcoming release of Ultra Prism. The rise of Zoroark/Lycanroc, along with other decks like Zoroark/Golisopod and Buzzwole/Lycanroc simply outpace it. For awhile, we were in a format where running Stage 2's were the norm. The top decks in the format right now all run big Basic and/or Stage 1 Pokémon.

    Metagross and Greninja both have problems with consistency, especially Greninja. I do agree that Metagross' damage output just isn't high enough anymore. 180 used to be the magic number to hit. Not it's increased to 210 (the power creep continues).

    Two big decks that you didn't list are Zoroark/Lycanroc and Tapu Bulu/Vikavolt. Both are listed as Tier 1 at the moment based on the amount of CP each deck earned at League Cups last month.
     
  3. NeedleKingSR Night March is overrated
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    Ok thanks! I guess I'll make some changes now.
     
  4. MultX Aspiring Trainer
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    "VikaBulu: Consistency: 9/10"

    If that was true :( I think it's on par with the Greninja at that.
     
  5. Alex Sableye The Cutest Sableye
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    Exeggutor/Venusaur/Leafeon is gonna be big, I can feel it!
     
  6. HouchinsDJ Aspiring Trainer
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    I think that would be a fun deck to play and the strategy behind it makes sense, but my biggest concern with Leafeon GX decks is that you need to have the perfect T1. You need to have an Eevee, a Grass Energy, and a Brigette, or a way to get those, in your starting hand. Anything less and you're already at a disadvantage.

    I do like Leafeon though and expect people to try out all sorts of combinations with it.
     
  7. Anthony Mooney Aspiring Trainer
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    So I just started out in the game and I spent about $250 on a Golisopod GX/Garbodor deck... How does that deck do in the meta today, and was that a bad move? Looking at what is good now, it almost feels like a meta call. Gardovior is the deck's weakness, but that has been outclassed it seems by Zoroark decks and others. But those decks run off of Abilities, so I have no idea what I have done...
     
  8. Attix Ethiopian Toilet Seat
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    I do still enjoy Metagross all the same, but I do agree that 150 and you have to switch out just ain't that much anymore in a cutthroat metagame such as this. That's why I've been experimenting a bit to find something else that "breaks the mold" a bit, since I dislike Complacent Gaming Syndrome.

    That said, I still can never beat Greninja lol
     
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  9. HouchinsDJ Aspiring Trainer
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    Golisopod/Garbodor is a great deck in today's Meta. It placed second at Memphis recently. I think it's a very strong deck that has a lot of favorable matchups, but can be susceptible to late-game N since it runs no draw support Pokémon.
     
  10. Anthony Mooney Aspiring Trainer
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    I assume that the late game draw is why I see Golisopod/Zoroark decks. The big thing with those are that you lose out on that Garbotoxin. The only two things I can think of to do anything about that is Octillery and Orangaru (?). Both of those don't seem that great...
     
  11. TheJollyFlyingMan Aspiring Trainer
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    I actually recently started experimenting with Trashalanche heavy Garb variants with Octillery (would try Zoroark but I don't own them atm) and 0-1 Toxin garb. Hard to tell so far if it's really worthwile. I could see Zoro/Trashalanche/Drampa being decent
     
  12. Anthony Mooney Aspiring Trainer
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    That's an odd trio. It sounds like it would have Energy issues. Not too sure if the Zoroark would counteract that, but the consistency would be my main concern.
     
  13. HouchinsDJ Aspiring Trainer
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    Golisopod/Zoroark is certainly more consistent, but Garbotoxin has its perks too. Octillery and Oranguru are both great draw engines but you can't really reliably run them in the Goli/Garb variant because your own Garbotoxin shuts them off.
     
  14. Calcab Aspiring Trainer
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    so volcanion has consistency 8 and vikabulu 9
    wow
     
  15. optimal_max Aspiring Trainer
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    Yeah, I would have to give consistency nod to a basic-themed deck with its own built-in energy acceleration over a deck that relies on stage 2 pokes.
     
  16. NeedleKingSR Night March is overrated
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    ehh sorry guess i wasnt paying attention.
     
  17. The Evil Sneasel Aspiring Trainer
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    Metagross GX: Consistency: 7/10 | Damage Output: /10 | Versus Meta: 7/10 | Overall: 8/10 | Just very consistent, while dishing out big damage. However, it just doesn't do enough damage nowadays, with Golisopod, Zoroark, and Greninja Break running rampant, and no real way to increase its damage output.

    If Gardevoir is 7.5 consistency then metagross should be 7.5 and metagross/solgaleo would be 10/10 damage as you can hit 250 easily
     

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