Gen 5 Rain Dance Team

Discussion in 'VG Competitive Play' started by Culex77, Nov 20, 2010.

  1. Culex77 Do I even need to explain who this is?


    With the introduction of Dream World abilities now is as good a time as ever to plan a rain dance team. So let's begin.

    Politoed [​IMG]
    Ability: Drizzle
    Item: Leftovers
    Nautre: Timid/Modest
    EVs: 4 HP, 252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd
    Boiling Water
    Focus Blast
    Ice Beam
    Hydro Pump/Surf

    With Politoed's Dream World ability being Drizzle it's obvious it should be my lead. The moveset is pretty good in my opinion. Boiling Water is for STAB and the 30% chance of burning is nice. Surf and Hydro Pump is one of those accuracy over power things. Both are goods moves it just depends on what you want. Ice Beam is for Dragon types like Dragonite. Focus Blast is to take out Dark types like say Zoroark.

    Kingdra [​IMG]
    Ability: Swift Swim
    Iem: Life Orb
    Nature: Lonely/Naughty
    EVs: 252 Atk, 80 Sp Atk, 176 Spd
    Draco Meteor
    Dragon Dance

    Kingdra and alot of other water types are great with Politoed. Considering some of them have Swift Swim as their ability they will be good to have. Waterfall is for STAB and for possible flinching as well as being boosted by the rain. Outrage is for Pokemon that have low physical defense and Draco Meteor is for those that have lower special defense. Dragon Dance just makes Kingdra faster and stronger thanks to the attack and speed boost.

    Vaporeon [​IMG]
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Hydration
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 192 HP, 252 Def, 64 Sp Def
    Boiling Water

    With Vaporeon's Dream World ability being the same as Manaphy's regular ability there's no way you can keep this Pokemon out. Boiling Water is inflect burn and for STAB. HP Electric is to take care of other water types like say Gyarados. With Wish's new mechcanics it's a great recovery move for Vaporeon. Rest could be a better option because of it's ability but I don't care.
    Protect is for letting Wish give Vaporeon some health back.

    Azumarill [​IMG]
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Huge Power
    Nature: Adament
    EVs: 252 Atk, 4 Def, 252 HP
    Aqua Jet
    Ice Punch

    Azumarill is another great Pokemon that benifits from the rain. Auqa Jet is to Azumarill the ability to hit it's opponet before it can attack. Superpower is good for Azumarill to take out Pokemon that resist Aqua Jet such as Natorrei. Ice Punch is for Dragon types that resist Aqua Jet. Waterfall is their for STAB.

    Huntail [​IMG]
    Item: White Herb
    Ability: Swift Swim
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 HP, 58 Atk, 200 Spd
    Ice Fang
    Shell Break
    Baton Pass

    I found this set to be quite interesting. Shell Break is for rasing it's offenisve and speed stats while lowering it's defensive stats. Thankfully the defense drops are never there thanks to the White Herb item. Then it can use Baton Pass to pass the stat boost to another Pokemon like Kingdra for example. Waterfall is for STAB and to deal with the usual Fire, Rock and Ground types and Ice Fang is for Dragon types.

    Rotom-W [​IMG]
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Levitate
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP, 168 Def, 88 Spd
    Hydro Pump
    Pain Split

    Unfortuantly for Rotom's forms they are no longer Ghost types so they can't get STAB from Shadow Ball like in the last generation. Still the wash form is pretty good as a wall. Thunderbolt is common on most Electric types as they have great special attack. Hydro Pump is for STAB and it's pretty powerful for Rotom. Will-O-Wisp is to deal an instant burn in case Vaporeon or Politoed goes down. Pain Split is for damageing Pokeom that use a recovery move like Recover.

    Well that's my Gen 5 Rain Dance team and I hope you enjoyed it. Please feel free to give me your opinions and suggestions to make this team better. I'm thinking of putting Burungeru on this team cause I might need a bulky Ghost and Water type. Might replace Rotom-W for it.

  2. Hyperion64 Aspiring Trainer


    I would remove Azumarill from the team and replace it with one of the following pokemon:

    Swampert (a superior sweeper)
    Manectric (lightning rod will definitely help and you probobly know about thunder)
    Agirudaa (hydration is great and this handles psychics and darks amazingly)
  3. Culex77 Do I even need to explain who this is?


    I don't see how Lightining Rod would help in a single battle cause that is what this is ment for. I do know about Thunder's accuracy being increased in rain though so I might put Manectric in their. I suppose your talking about a Curse set for Swampert so I can see how it is a superior sweeper. Agirudaa would be good to have on this team. Also I find it interesting for a Bug type to have Hydration. I'll have him set up Rain Dance in case Politoed goes down.
  4. Hot N' Spicy


    Replace Azumarril with:
    Ludicolo @ Leftovers
    252 Def 252 SpD 4 SpA
    Rain Dish

    Leech Seed

    The greatest rain staller that has worked wonders for me.
  5. Culex77 Do I even need to explain who this is?


    How could I forget Ludicolo?! He has both Swift Swim and Rain Dish. This should have been the first Pokemon I thought of besides Politoed that is.
  6. rockinpikachu "grrr" That's my grrrr face


    Yeah you do need at least 1 non water pokemon (excluding rotom) I am trying to think on that give me a day or two and I might have your answer.
    Overall this team works great together I recommend a ludicolo if you want a non water pokemon that still posseses water as a type. Who you take out to make room for a ludicolo is your choice
  7. frostwind I'm baaaacccckkkk


    Id change:
    Kingdra doesnt need special attack input. It can freely use draco meteor without worrying about stat loss.

    Swampert over azumarill.
    Ice Punch
    Protect/some other move

    A ludicolo!!!
    Rain Dish is great w/leftovers yadayadayada
    Or try Tentacruel who now has raindish (boiling water+toxic+slime wave, icebeam)
    or even blastoise (same ability)
  8. Culex77 Do I even need to explain who this is?


    That Swampert move set kinda looks simallure to Smogon's Choice Band set, minus protect of course. A lot of these water Pokemon are gaining some great ability that makes them better in the rain which is great. Blastoise and Tentacruel will be options for the future.
  9. frostwind I'm baaaacccckkkk


    And i wouldnt count out Burunkeru either. Its pretty decent and gets the ghost stab rotom wishes it still had. Overall good wall with the boiling eye combo.
  10. Culex77 Do I even need to explain who this is?


    I was planing on doing that to begin with so I didn't count him out.
  11. giratina487 It's like a long dream...


    Just a little thing; I would put Thunder on Rotom-W instead of Thunderbolt for obvious reasons.

    Also, I think a good suggestion for a Pokemon to add would be Bronzong with Levitate and a bunch of support moves. With Levitate and Rain Bronzong has no weaknesses, essentially becoming an amazing mixed wall. You could also go with a Bronzor with Evolution Stone and Levitate, which again has no weaknesses and really high mixed defenses, at the cost of slightly lowered HP, not quite as incredible moveset, and lowered attacking stats. I really don't know which one is best out of those, but i guess that's up to you. Scizor and Forretress work well also, seeing as they have their main weaknesses reduced. It's up to you, those are my suggestions.
  12. Purpose Poking people is still a hobby (FKA hipoke)


    I would consider making Vaporeon a Calm Mind one, making it a mini Manaphy. It'd be something like

    (Standard EVs)
    Calm Mind
    Boiling Water
    Toxic/Ice Beam

    Since Hydration gets rid of sleep. Also, you should have at least one Rain Dance user, because if Poli gets knocked out Ninetales, T-Tar, and Hippowdon become HUGE problems. I would also replace a pokemon with this

    Shandera @ Balloon
    252 HP, 252 Sp.Atk, 4 Speed

    - Shadow Ball
    - HP Water
    - Protect
    - Calm Mind

    Basically, it's for trapping Hippowdon and Ninetales, and knocking them out with HP Water. It doesn't work on T-Tar because of Crunch/Pursuit. When against Hippowdon, use Protect, and if it doesn't Roar, Crunch, or Curse, Calm Mind for a while. If it does, hit it with HP Water.

    Also like mentioned above, having Bronzong, Scizor, or Forretress would be good.
  13. frostwind I'm baaaacccckkkk


    Going on from the above, get a steel type. Bronzong would be best, or nattorei/ scizor. Bronzong could be a rain dance back up, and nattorei a decent wall/spiker.
  14. Ilidor Aspiring Trainer


    Just because it's a Rain Dance team doesn't mean all of the pokemon have to be Water types =P They just have to benefit from water. When all pokemon are water they are all exposed to a common weakness.
  15. Chillarmy El problemo?


    Just a little thing, in this generation Lightningrod now completely absorbs Electric attacks and the user gains +1 Sp. Attack. This means you can switch in either Manectric or Zapdos, get a free bost, and proceed to sweep! I personally would recommend a SubRoost Zapdos, as follows:

    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    Timid Nature
    Lightning Rod
    252 Sp Att/ 252 Spe/ 4 HP

    - Substitute
    - Roost
    - Thunder
    - HP Ice/ Grass

    The idea of this set is to switch into an Electric attack, get the boost, Sub up, and sweep. SubRoost is a great stall combo, and really helps against low PP moves. Thunder has perfect accuracy in the rain, and is a monstrous attack with STAb and BP of 120. The last choice is preference. HP Grass cover the Water/Ground combo, while Ice covers Dragons and Grass types such as Breloom and Eruufun. Hope I helped!!
  16. Culex77 Do I even need to explain who this is?


    Yeah I didn't know that till I had a battle with a Zapdos with Lightining Rod. That just makes it a better Pokemon to use. I'm considering all of the options you guys gave me to build a better Rain Dance team. So thanks for your support. I still want any other ideas you guys can throw at me though cause it would help.

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