Card numbers

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  1. PokeGB Aspiring Trainer
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    Does anyone know at what set they started making Rare cards (Holo/Rev Holo/Non holo) all with the same set number?

    Unlike the original sets where there was a holo and non holo of the same card but with different set numbers
     


  2. Bob The Magical Penguin Trying to get back into Competitive TCG
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    As far as I know, this has only been E-Skyridge and E-Aquapolis, unless you also count some of the promo sets (Nintendo BSP, POP Sets, etc.)
     
  3. PokePhD PokéBeach Verified Seller
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    There are also a few sets like Unseen Forces where this occurs.

    The Lugia #29 in the set is normally Non-Holo, but there is also a RH version of the card as well as a Promo Holo version with the same set number. The Promo has a normal foil, it looks as if it came from the set.

    Not too sure on other sets though. :p
     
  4. PokeGB Aspiring Trainer
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    in the new dragons exalted set, slaking for example is a holo and a rev holo, so will there be a non holo too?
     
  5. PokePhD PokéBeach Verified Seller
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    There won't be.

    Most cards only have a Holo/RH form. There are *very* few that have all three. If you are looking at cards with Holo/Non-Holo prints, then you are limited to sets like Jungle, Fossil, Team Rocket, and Neo Discovery.
     
  6. Bob The Magical Penguin Trying to get back into Competitive TCG
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    Sorry, I forgot about theme-deck-variants and that stuff as I don't collect them, but yeah, Lugia #29 Holo is one of the deck mascots for that set, and henceforth is holographic.
     
  7. xxashxx "Pokemon Gotta catch em all Pokemon"
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    The very first set that started with the reverse holo set was Legendary Collection but I am not sure if the set has the exact same numbers or not XD.:)
     
  8. Bob The Magical Penguin Trying to get back into Competitive TCG
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    Wow have I been stupid. At first I thought it said WITHOUT the same set numbers. But yeah, it started with Legendary Collection for the reverses, but i'm not exactly sure when the deck non-holos/special holos started.
     
  9. omahanime No strings on me.
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    .::Theme Deck Exclusive Cards::.

    Charizard (LC) Non Holo - WotC
    Dark Blastoise (LC) Non Holo - WotC
    Dark Raichu (LC) Non Holo - WotC
    Blaziken (RS) Non Holo
    Gardevoir (RS) Non Holo
    Aqua's Kyogre (MA) Non Holo
    Magma's Groudon (MA) Non Holo
    Metagross (HL) Non Holo
    Azumarill (TRR) Non Holo
    Dark Marowak (TRR) Non Holo
    Dark Dragonite (TRR) Holo
    Dark Tyranitar (TRR) Holo
    Camerupt (DE) Non Holo
    Shedinja (DE) Non Holo
    Deoxys (Normal) (DE) Holo
    Rayquaza (DE) Holo
    Blaziken (EM) Non Holo
    Manectric (EM) Non Holo
    Sceptile (EM) Non Holo
    Swampert (EM) Non Holo
    Feraligtr (UF) Non Holo
    Meganium (UF) Non Holo
    Slowbro (UF) Non Holo
    Typhlosion (UF) Non Holo
    Ho-Oh (UF) Holo
    Lugia (UF) Holo
    Latias d (HP) Holo
    Latios d (HP) Holo
    Dugtrio (CG) Non Holo
    Blastoise (CG) Holo
    Swampert (CG) Holo
    Venusaur (CG) Holo
    Delcatty (PK) Non Holo
    Gardevoir (PK) Non Holo
    Dusclops (PK) Holo
    Mightyena (PK) Holo
    Bastiodon (MT) Holo
    Rampardos (MT) Holo
    Ampharos (SW) Non Holo
    Venusaur (SW) Non Holo
    Electivire (SW) Holo
    Magmortar (SW) Holo
    Porygon-Z (GE) Non Holo
    Dialga (GE) Holo
    Palkia (GE) Holo
    Glaceon (MD) Holo
    Leafeon (MD) Hoplo
    Gliscor (LA) Non Holo
    Mamoswine (LA) Non Holo
    Metagross (LA) Non Holo
    Yanmega (LA) Non Holo
    Heatran (LA) Holo
    Regigigas (LA) Holo
    Sceptile (SF) Non Holo
    Gyarados (SF) Holo
    Tyranitar (SF) Holo
    Gardevoir (PT) Non Holo
    Giratina (PT) Holo
    Shaymin (PT) Holo
    Flygon (RR) Non Holo
    Gallade 4 (RR) Holo
    Rhyperior 4 (RR) Holo
    Swampert (SV) Non Holo
    Venusaur (SV) Non Holo
    Arcanine G (SV) Holo
    Milotic C (SV) Holo
    Luxray (PA) Non Holo
    Swalot (PA) Non Holo
    Tangrowth (PA) Non Holo
    Arcanine (HGSS) Non Holo
    Noctowl (HGSS) Non Holo
    Feraligatr (HGSS) Holo
    Meganium (HGSS) Holo
    Typhlosion (HGSS) Holo
    Mismagius (UL) Non Holo
    Steelix (UL) Holo
    Tyranitar (UL) Holo
    Bellossom (UD) Non Holo
    Espeon (UD) Alt Holo
    Espeon (UD) Non Holo
    Togekiss (UD) Non Holo
    Umbreon (UD) Alt Holo
    Umbreon (UD) Non Holo
    Mamoswine (TR) Alt Holo
    Mamoswine (TR) Non Holo
    Nidoking (TR) Alt Holo
    Nidoking (TR) Non Holo
    Venomoth (TR) Non Holo
    Groundon (CL) Non Holo
    Hitmontop (CL) Non Holo
    Lucario (CL) Alt Holo
    Lucario (CL) Non holo
    Magmortar (CL) Non Holo
    Ninetales (CL) Non Holo
    Tangrowth (CL) Alt Holo
    Serperior (BW) Non Holo
    Serperior (BW) Alt Holo
    Emboar (BW) Non Holo
    Emboar (BW) Alt Holo
    Samurott (BW) Non Holo
    Samurott (BW) Alt Holo
    Scolipede (EP) Holo
    Krookodile (EP) Holo
    Leavanny (NV) Non Holo
    Accelgor (NV) Holo
    Eelekross (NV) Non Holo
    Escavalier (NV) Holo
    Chandelure (ND) Non Holo
    Reshiram (ND) Holo
    Luxray (ND) Non Holo
    Zekrom (ND) Holo
    Scrafty (ND) Non Holo
    Empoleon (DE) Non Holo
    Cofagrigus (DE) Non Holo
    Krookodile (DE) Holo
    Zoroark (DE) Holo
    Milotic (Dr Ex) Non Holo
    Golurk (Dr Ex) Non Holo
    Garchomp (Dr Ex) Holo
    Hydreigon (Dr Ex) Holo
     
  10. Bob The Magical Penguin Trying to get back into Competitive TCG
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    Actually, it turns out that the theme-deck-exclusive holo/non-holo cards started in EX Magma vs Aqua (as far as I can tell) and have been in decks of most of the sets since then. Expedition has rare holos, rare copies of the holos, and reverses of both of them, hence four of that same card. E-Aquapolis & E-Skyridge have special subsets for holos, the regular holos do not have reverses, while the rares in the main set do have reverse froms. Reverses have been in existence since Legendary Collection.
     

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