> NXD-FLF Yveltal EX / Darkrai EX

SwY


Posts: 15
Joined: Apr 2013
Offline Somewhere :(

*
Post: #226
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

I feel like Ive been getting stuck or drawing dead too often.
Any advice on how to speed things along/ less cluttered

3 Sableye
3 Darkrai
2 Absol
1 Keldeo

4 Juniper
3 Bianca
2 N
1 Ghetsis

4 Dark Patch
4 Laser
4 Catcher
3 Ultra Ball
2 Crushing
2 Enhanced
2 Energy Switch
2 Dark Claw
2 Bicylce
1 Energy Search
1 Max Potion
1 RR

2 Virbank
1 Ace Comp

10 Darkness

This Season:
66-5
(This post was last modified: 05-16-2013 10:08 AM by GdoubleEK.)
05-16-2013 12:52 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply


Awakening!


Posts: 390
Joined: Feb 2013
Offline Somewhere :(

*
Post: #227
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

I would take out the two Crushing Hammers for a second max potion and a fourth Darkrai. Even the enhanced hammers aren't THAT good. 4 Darkrais always ensure you have at least two in your deck, with only three it happens a lot to get 1 or 2 prized.

Aveiro TCG Gym Leader and Pokémon Professor

1st Place at Aveiro's Plasma Storm Pre-Release(Cobalion EX/Gallade)
6th Place at Oporto's Regionals(Darkrai/Lasers)
1st Place at Oporto's Spring Battle Roads(GarboLand)
1st Place at Aveiro's Spring Battle Roads(GarboLand)
3rd Place at Aveiro's Plasma Freeze Pre-release(Weavile/Eeveelutions)
11the Place at Portugal's Nationals(Blastoise/Keldeo/Mewtwo)
05-16-2013 07:19 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply


SwY


Posts: 15
Joined: Apr 2013
Offline Somewhere :(

*
Post: #228
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

I might play around with that,
adding a second Max Potion, would I also consider maybe another Energy Switch

This Season:
66-5
05-16-2013 10:10 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply


Pokémon Trainer


Posts: 116
Joined: May 2013
Offline Somewhere :(

*
Post: #229
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

(05-16-2013 10:10 AM)GdoubleEK Wrote:  I might play around with that,
adding a second Max Potion, would I also consider maybe another Energy Switch
2 Max pots is a little bit overkill. 1 tech is a good number, though onto the consistency issue, something I would reccomend is taking out the ghetsis and bicycle for a more consistent support line. Like 4 N, 3 bianca, 4 Juniper, 1 skyla with the random reciever is a lot more consistent. Ghetsis isn't for draw support, but for disturbance, he can net you a solid draw of 0 sometimes and give you a turn with a wasted supporter. And while bicycle can get you a draw of 4 (better than cheren which is a support) it forces you to use resources, or discard them with ultra ball, wheras N or skyla gives you an out to refresh or search without being forced to use resources.
05-16-2013 12:44 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply


Awakening!


Posts: 390
Joined: Feb 2013
Offline Somewhere :(

*
Post: #230
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

I am running:

4 Darkrai EX
3 Absol
2 Sableye
1 Keldeo EX

4 Juniper
4 Bianca
3 N
1 Colress
1 Random Receiver
1 Computer Search
1 Energy Search
2 Virbank City Gym
1 Max Potion
1 Enhanced Hammer
4 Hypnotoxic Laser
4 Virbank City Gym
4 Dark Patch
3 Ultra Ball

10 Darkness Energy

Aveiro TCG Gym Leader and Pokémon Professor

1st Place at Aveiro's Plasma Storm Pre-Release(Cobalion EX/Gallade)
6th Place at Oporto's Regionals(Darkrai/Lasers)
1st Place at Oporto's Spring Battle Roads(GarboLand)
1st Place at Aveiro's Spring Battle Roads(GarboLand)
3rd Place at Aveiro's Plasma Freeze Pre-release(Weavile/Eeveelutions)
11the Place at Portugal's Nationals(Blastoise/Keldeo/Mewtwo)
05-17-2013 07:54 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply


SwY


Posts: 15
Joined: Apr 2013
Offline Somewhere :(

*
Post: #231
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

I know its a typo, right now you have six virbank

This Season:
66-5
05-17-2013 09:51 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply


Ehh I want my B&W back!


Posts: 282
Joined: Aug 2008
Offline Somewhere :(

*
Post: #232
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

(05-17-2013 07:54 AM)DrunkSpinda Wrote:  I am running:

4 Darkrai EX
3 Absol
2 Sableye
1 Keldeo EX

4 Juniper
4 Bianca
3 N
1 Colress
1 Random Receiver
1 Computer Search
1 Energy Search
2 Virbank City Gym
1 Max Potion
1 Enhanced Hammer
4 Hypnotoxic Laser
4 Virbank City Gym Catcher
4 Dark Patch
3 Ultra Ball

10 Darkness Energy
Assuming that is what you intended...
I'm concerned about only running 1 Enhanced Hammer, you might not be able to keep up with Plasma decks and just lose the race. I feel with 2 Enhanced Hammers it's about ok, less and Plasma just gets free reign to set up Kyurems/Lugia/Tornadus etc and sweep.
Tool Scrapper and/or Switch might be required to deal with Garbodor/Big Basic decks, you could get catcher stalled and then killed by Hammerhead otherwise.
I prefer 2 Skyla 2 Bianca over 4 Bianca, but I see why you might choose the Bianca for raw draw power.

Ehh! I want my B&W back!
05-17-2013 11:02 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply


SwY


Posts: 15
Joined: Apr 2013
Offline Somewhere :(

*
Post: #233
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

Absol is really becoming an all star again plasma, especially with dark claw and lasers

This Season:
66-5
05-19-2013 11:10 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply


Elite Four


Posts: 14,403
Joined: Aug 2006
Offline Somewhere :(

*
Post: #234
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

Absol is...surprisingly clutch, even if the opponent limits their Bench. If they purposely limit it, they're shooting themselves in the foot long-game because most of the top decks really do need a full Bench (Eels, Plasma). Just having the ability to poke something for one less Energy than a Darkrai can sometimes be the difference maker between getting an attack off and winning, or wasting a turn Junk Hunting and losing the game. Giving up only one prize is sweet icing on the cake. I'm not sure if playing two is the right move or not because I rarely need both over the course of the game, but I surmise more testing would need to happen in order for me to come to the right conclusion on that.

dmaster out.
05-20-2013 01:16 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply


Awakening!


Posts: 390
Joined: Feb 2013
Offline Somewhere :(

*
Post: #235
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

Right now I've been testing a rogue anti-meta deck and absol is awesome there as well. One of the best non-exs of the set, imo

Aveiro TCG Gym Leader and Pokémon Professor

1st Place at Aveiro's Plasma Storm Pre-Release(Cobalion EX/Gallade)
6th Place at Oporto's Regionals(Darkrai/Lasers)
1st Place at Oporto's Spring Battle Roads(GarboLand)
1st Place at Aveiro's Spring Battle Roads(GarboLand)
3rd Place at Aveiro's Plasma Freeze Pre-release(Weavile/Eeveelutions)
11the Place at Portugal's Nationals(Blastoise/Keldeo/Mewtwo)
05-20-2013 07:02 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply


Aspiring Trainer


Posts: 7
Joined: May 2013
Offline Somewhere :(

*
Post: #236
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

I'm currently trying the following list:
4 Darkrai EX
3 Sableye
2 Absol
1 Keldeo EX
=10 pokes

4 Dark Patch
3 Pokemon Catcher
2 Dark Claw
2 Enhanced Hammer
4 Hypnotoxic Laser
2 Virbank City Gym
4 Ultra Ball
1 Random Receiver
2 Energy Switch
1 Super Rod
1 Max potion
= 27 trainers (non supporter)

4 Juniper
2 Skyla
4 N
3 Bianca
= 13 Supporters

10 Darkness Energy

I feel like I need the 3rd energy switch but I also feel only 1 Skyla isn't enough since it's able to search almost half of the deck itself and relying on junk hunting Comp. Search leaves you open to N >.<
05-22-2013 10:23 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply


Pokémon Trainer


Posts: 116
Joined: May 2013
Offline Somewhere :(

*
Post: #237
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

(05-22-2013 10:23 PM)zero2exe Wrote:  I'm currently trying the following list:
4 Darkrai EX
3 Sableye
2 Absol
1 Keldeo EX
=10 pokes

4 Dark Patch
3 Pokemon Catcher
2 Dark Claw
2 Enhanced Hammer
4 Hypnotoxic Laser
2 Virbank City Gym
4 Ultra Ball
1 Random Receiver
2 Energy Switch
1 Super Rod
1 Max potion
= 27 trainers (non supporter)

4 Juniper
2 Skyla
4 N
3 Bianca
= 13 Supporters

10 Darkness Energy

I feel like I need the 3rd energy switch but I also feel only 1 Skyla isn't enough since it's able to search almost half of the deck itself and relying on junk hunting Comp. Search leaves you open to N >.<
-1 Super Rod
-1 Ultra Ball

+1 Catcher
+1 Energy Search

Energy search is so clutch in this deck and it's saved me from energy droughts by repeated junk hunting.
05-22-2013 11:29 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply


Awakening!


Posts: 390
Joined: Feb 2013
Offline Somewhere :(

*
Post: #238
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

I would also switch the sableye/absol count

Aveiro TCG Gym Leader and Pokémon Professor

1st Place at Aveiro's Plasma Storm Pre-Release(Cobalion EX/Gallade)
6th Place at Oporto's Regionals(Darkrai/Lasers)
1st Place at Oporto's Spring Battle Roads(GarboLand)
1st Place at Aveiro's Spring Battle Roads(GarboLand)
3rd Place at Aveiro's Plasma Freeze Pre-release(Weavile/Eeveelutions)
11the Place at Portugal's Nationals(Blastoise/Keldeo/Mewtwo)
05-23-2013 08:01 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply


Pokémon Trainer


Posts: 116
Joined: May 2013
Offline Somewhere :(

*
Post: #239
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

Hmm, Imo 2 absol is good enough. 3 Sabelye is better because it helps with sabelye starts more often which greatly helps this deck out, especially when you're only running 2 energy switch. Absol is really clutch in some matchups, but start absol is usually worse than starting sabelye imo.

@Zero2exe
Your list is very similar to mine, only varying by a few tech cards. I've found the same thing with less energy switch, but to include techs to help you deal better with matchups you usually have to cut consistency a little bit (tool scrapper).
(This post was last modified: 05-23-2013 10:19 AM by Aggressiv.)
05-23-2013 10:18 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply


Aspiring Trainer


Posts: 7
Joined: May 2013
Offline Somewhere :(

*
Post: #240
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

(05-23-2013 10:18 AM)Aggressiv Wrote:  Hmm, Imo 2 absol is good enough. 3 Sabelye is better because it helps with sabelye starts more often which greatly helps this deck out, especially when you're only running 2 energy switch. Absol is really clutch in some matchups, but start absol is usually worse than starting sabelye imo.

@Zero2exe
Your list is very similar to mine, only varying by a few tech cards. I've found the same thing with less energy switch, but to include techs to help you deal better with matchups you usually have to cut consistency a little bit (tool scrapper).
I know my darkrai decks all share a similar skeleton although I did copy your supporter line since I couldn't find one that I liked until now. Btw wouldn't it be better to add a switch instead of a tool scrapper for those matchups? It might not get rid of Garbodor's ability right away however that switch is able to replace Dark Cloak for enough time to catcher and KO Garbodor with either darkrai or absol, and since garbodor decks are supposed to replace rescue scarf with float stone (due to garbodors's huge retreat cost) it means they wouldn't get it back up so quickly. Also a single switch is never a dead card against other decks unlike scrapper.
05-23-2013 05:56 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply



Forum Jump:

User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)