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Does anyone know at what set they started making Rare cards (Holo/Rev Holo/Non holo) all with the same set number?

Unlike the original sets where there was a holo and non holo of the same card but with different set numbers

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RE: Card numbers

(09-06-2012 02:45 PM)PokeGB Wrote:  Does anyone know at what set they started making Rare cards (Holo/Rev Holo/Non holo) all with the same set number?

Unlike the original sets where there was a holo and non holo of the same card but with different set numbers
As far as I know, this has only been E-Skyridge and E-Aquapolis, unless you also count some of the promo sets (Nintendo BSP, POP Sets, etc.)
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RE: Card numbers

(09-06-2012 03:21 PM)Bob The Magical Penguin Wrote:  As far as I know, this has only been E-Skyridge and E-Aquapolis, unless you also count some of the promo sets (Nintendo BSP, POP Sets, etc.)
There are also a few sets like Unseen Forces where this occurs.

The Lugia #29 in the set is normally Non-Holo, but there is also a RH version of the card as well as a Promo Holo version with the same set number. The Promo has a normal foil, it looks as if it came from the set.

Not too sure on other sets though. Tongue

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RE: Card numbers

in the new dragons exalted set, slaking for example is a holo and a rev holo, so will there be a non holo too?

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RE: Card numbers

(09-06-2012 03:31 PM)PokeGB Wrote:  in the new dragons exalted set, slaking for example is a holo and a rev holo, so will there be a non holo too?
There won't be.

Most cards only have a Holo/RH form. There are *very* few that have all three. If you are looking at cards with Holo/Non-Holo prints, then you are limited to sets like Jungle, Fossil, Team Rocket, and Neo Discovery.

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RE: Card numbers

Sorry, I forgot about theme-deck-variants and that stuff as I don't collect them, but yeah, Lugia #29 Holo is one of the deck mascots for that set, and henceforth is holographic.
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RE: Card numbers

The very first set that started with the reverse holo set was Legendary Collection but I am not sure if the set has the exact same numbers or not XD.Smile

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(09-06-2012 08:51 PM)xxashxx Wrote:  The very first set that started with the reverse holo set was Legendary Collection but I am not sure if the set has the exact same numbers or not XD.Smile
Wow have I been stupid. At first I thought it said WITHOUT the same set numbers. But yeah, it started with Legendary Collection for the reverses, but i'm not exactly sure when the deck non-holos/special holos started.
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RE: Card numbers

(09-07-2012 03:12 PM)Bob The Magical Penguin Wrote:  Wow have I been stupid. At first I thought it said WITHOUT the same set numbers. But yeah, it started with Legendary Collection for the reverses, but i'm not exactly sure when the deck non-holos/special holos started.
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Charizard (LC) Non Holo - WotC
Dark Blastoise (LC) Non Holo - WotC
Dark Raichu (LC) Non Holo - WotC
Blaziken (RS) Non Holo
Gardevoir (RS) Non Holo
Aqua's Kyogre (MA) Non Holo
Magma's Groudon (MA) Non Holo
Metagross (HL) Non Holo
Azumarill (TRR) Non Holo
Dark Marowak (TRR) Non Holo
Dark Dragonite (TRR) Holo
Dark Tyranitar (TRR) Holo
Camerupt (DE) Non Holo
Shedinja (DE) Non Holo
Deoxys (Normal) (DE) Holo
Rayquaza (DE) Holo
Blaziken (EM) Non Holo
Manectric (EM) Non Holo
Sceptile (EM) Non Holo
Swampert (EM) Non Holo
Feraligtr (UF) Non Holo
Meganium (UF) Non Holo
Slowbro (UF) Non Holo
Typhlosion (UF) Non Holo
Ho-Oh (UF) Holo
Lugia (UF) Holo
Latias d (HP) Holo
Latios d (HP) Holo
Dugtrio (CG) Non Holo
Blastoise (CG) Holo
Swampert (CG) Holo
Venusaur (CG) Holo
Delcatty (PK) Non Holo
Gardevoir (PK) Non Holo
Dusclops (PK) Holo
Mightyena (PK) Holo
Bastiodon (MT) Holo
Rampardos (MT) Holo
Ampharos (SW) Non Holo
Venusaur (SW) Non Holo
Electivire (SW) Holo
Magmortar (SW) Holo
Porygon-Z (GE) Non Holo
Dialga (GE) Holo
Palkia (GE) Holo
Glaceon (MD) Holo
Leafeon (MD) Hoplo
Gliscor (LA) Non Holo
Mamoswine (LA) Non Holo
Metagross (LA) Non Holo
Yanmega (LA) Non Holo
Heatran (LA) Holo
Regigigas (LA) Holo
Sceptile (SF) Non Holo
Gyarados (SF) Holo
Tyranitar (SF) Holo
Gardevoir (PT) Non Holo
Giratina (PT) Holo
Shaymin (PT) Holo
Flygon (RR) Non Holo
Gallade 4 (RR) Holo
Rhyperior 4 (RR) Holo
Swampert (SV) Non Holo
Venusaur (SV) Non Holo
Arcanine G (SV) Holo
Milotic C (SV) Holo
Luxray (PA) Non Holo
Swalot (PA) Non Holo
Tangrowth (PA) Non Holo
Arcanine (HGSS) Non Holo
Noctowl (HGSS) Non Holo
Feraligatr (HGSS) Holo
Meganium (HGSS) Holo
Typhlosion (HGSS) Holo
Mismagius (UL) Non Holo
Steelix (UL) Holo
Tyranitar (UL) Holo
Bellossom (UD) Non Holo
Espeon (UD) Alt Holo
Espeon (UD) Non Holo
Togekiss (UD) Non Holo
Umbreon (UD) Alt Holo
Umbreon (UD) Non Holo
Mamoswine (TR) Alt Holo
Mamoswine (TR) Non Holo
Nidoking (TR) Alt Holo
Nidoking (TR) Non Holo
Venomoth (TR) Non Holo
Groundon (CL) Non Holo
Hitmontop (CL) Non Holo
Lucario (CL) Alt Holo
Lucario (CL) Non holo
Magmortar (CL) Non Holo
Ninetales (CL) Non Holo
Tangrowth (CL) Alt Holo
Serperior (BW) Non Holo
Serperior (BW) Alt Holo
Emboar (BW) Non Holo
Emboar (BW) Alt Holo
Samurott (BW) Non Holo
Samurott (BW) Alt Holo
Scolipede (EP) Holo
Krookodile (EP) Holo
Leavanny (NV) Non Holo
Accelgor (NV) Holo
Eelekross (NV) Non Holo
Escavalier (NV) Holo
Chandelure (ND) Non Holo
Reshiram (ND) Holo
Luxray (ND) Non Holo
Zekrom (ND) Holo
Scrafty (ND) Non Holo
Empoleon (DE) Non Holo
Cofagrigus (DE) Non Holo
Krookodile (DE) Holo
Zoroark (DE) Holo
Milotic (Dr Ex) Non Holo
Golurk (Dr Ex) Non Holo
Garchomp (Dr Ex) Holo
Hydreigon (Dr Ex) Holo

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RE: Card numbers

Actually, it turns out that the theme-deck-exclusive holo/non-holo cards started in EX Magma vs Aqua (as far as I can tell) and have been in decks of most of the sets since then. Expedition has rare holos, rare copies of the holos, and reverses of both of them, hence four of that same card. E-Aquapolis & E-Skyridge have special subsets for holos, the regular holos do not have reverses, while the rares in the main set do have reverse froms. Reverses have been in existence since Legendary Collection.
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