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DawnOfXatu
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Sorry for my slight absense, it looks like I will be playing catchup again...
I'll start by updating the main page... then I'll start helping some other decklists.
SotH Wrote:Pokemon: 24
3-2-3 Blaziken (1 from Platinum)
2-2 Rapidash
2-2 Heatran
2-2 Claydol
1-1 Dialga G
2 Unknown G
I have some issues with this decklist, 4-3-4 Blaze is better than 3-2-3 with a 2-2 Rapidash. The 1-1 Dialga would shut down the Rapidash and the Blaziken PT, which isn't that good for the deck. This is what I think that the decklist should look like:
4-3-3/1 Blaze (PT,GE,PT/GE)
2-2 Heatran Lv.X
2-2 Claydol
2 Unown G
1 Uxie
(22)
Also just wondering, is it good to combine Machamp with Rampardos?
Don't bother combining the two, both are good, but I would say that it is better to play one or the other.
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(This post was last modified: 02-11-2009 12:52 PM by DawnOfXatu.)
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| 02-11-2009 11:58 AM |
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ESP
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RE: The Jive: A TCG Team for Experienced Players. Join Today!
Sorry about the slight absence guys. I'm playing Leafeon for states, and I don't know if I should play Shaymin in the deck. I have a 2-2 Shaymin Lv. X in the deck right now, and I don't know what to do with it. I have a T3 Leafeon Lv. X usually, and a T4-5 Sceptile GE. However, the Shaymin slows it down, and doesn't help too much. I have Espeon MD to help with the HP problem. Should I take the Shaymin out, or just bump it down to 1-1, or leave it the same?
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| 02-11-2009 01:06 PM |
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red blastoise
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RE: The Jive: A TCG Team for Experienced Players. Join Today!
better now, i think it's less darkish, but not light and happy enough.
PHP Code:
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i will make another one in the weekends or tomorrow.
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| 02-11-2009 01:15 PM |
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ChaosKnuckles
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RE: The Jive: A TCG Team for Experienced Players. Join Today!
(02-10-2009 08:31 PM)ChaosKnuckles Wrote: I'll say this now Gallade/Cresselia Lv. X/Swalot/Cacture PT isn't going to work.
I meant as a fun rogue based off of Sonic Blade...
Like I said heres where mets comes into play. Why can't you run both?
I'm not sure what you're saying here, could you explain?
Heres whare meta comes into play. Why can't you run both Dialga G X and Darkrai?
You just need to clean up your list. 16 energy is too many(most TTars only play 14) taking some of those out makes room.
It originally had 12 energy, and the other 4 come from Call, which can help with starts.
You still don't need that many energy. 4 Sp Dark, 4-6 Basic Dark and 4 Call works fine.
You have tested Drapion more than me what are it good/bad match-ups?
More testing than you, but not that much. Only Leafeon/Glaceon/Gardevoir (more powerful than you would think), Bellawesome, Raichu/Electrivire, DuskGar (bad start), and a Dialga rogue (bad start). My only loss came from Bellawesome, and a close game with Leafeon/Glaceon/Gardevoir.
If thats your meta, then I would pick TTar over Drapion.
My answers are in red.
ESP: Try a 1-1 Shaymin. You only need it for a few match-ups, so 1-1 should be fine.
Wiseman: Even good lists need that magic. Magic = synergy. Synergy is the think that makes decks work.
red blastoise: Bad deal. Uxie is worth a lot more than Rampardos.
everyone: anyone up for a redshark match?
Team Awesome FTW
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| 02-11-2009 01:21 PM |
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The Fallen One
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RE: The Jive: A TCG Team for Experienced Players. Join Today!
(02-11-2009 01:21 PM)ChaosKnuckles[color=#FF0000' Wrote: Heres whare meta comes into play. Why can't you run both Dialga G X and Darkrai?[/color]
Because Darkrai gets shut down by Dialga G?
You still don't need that many energy. 4 Sp Dark, 4-6 Basic Dark and 4 Call works fine.
See my updated list last page 
If thats your meta, then I would pick TTar over Drapion.
Not meta, just League where there's a lot of rogues. And Drapion did fine, why would I switch?
Answers in bold.
ESP: I'd take 1-1 Shaymin Lv. X, just in case.
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| 02-11-2009 01:54 PM |
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DawnOfXatu
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ESP: 1-1 Can work but then you would have to add in an Azelf. I still like 2-2 but if you don't like it then you can take it out.
Red Blastoise: I have added the banner to the main page, if you are going to make more, try to make them a little smaller, like your Gardevoir Banner. Also capitalization or all caps on a banner is probably the best idea, no caps is a little off.
TFO: Here is what I play for a Drapion Pokemon decklist, I'm not sure if this has already been said...
4-2-2 Drapion
4-2 Weavile
2-2 Claydol
1-1 Palkia Lv.X
(20)
You can add in some Unown G/K making the total 22, but that is how I play Drapion, it is much more speed oriented. I have also considered dropping 1-2 Skorupi.
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| 02-11-2009 02:05 PM |
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The Fallen One
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RE: The Jive: A TCG Team for Experienced Players. Join Today!
(02-11-2009 02:05 PM)DawnOfXatu Wrote: TFO: Here is what I play for a Drapion Pokemon decklist, I'm not sure if this has already been said...
4-2-2 Drapion
4-2 Weavile
2-2 Claydol
1-1 Palkia Lv.X
(20)
You can add in some Unown G/K making the total 22, but that is how I play Drapion, it is much more speed oriented. I have also considered dropping 1-2 Skorupi.
Yeah, I can see that it is speedy, but with speed comes a loss of power. If I ran this, I would most likely add Unown K for lock, but I don't have any.
And, do drop a Skorupi, 4 is a little much for a not-so-good start.
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| 02-11-2009 02:11 PM |
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Pokeric
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RE: The Jive: A TCG Team for Experienced Players. Join Today!
I'd play the lines DOX gave with 1 Uxie and 1 Azelf
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| 02-11-2009 02:33 PM |
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The Fallen One
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(02-11-2009 02:33 PM)Pokeric Wrote: I'd play the lines DOX gave with 1 Uxie and 1 Azelf
If I had 1 more Uxie and 1 Azelf, I'd play them instead of Unown G.
Okay...can somebody explain why everyone is dissing on Dark Drapion and is saying to go for no Darkrai? It's confusing me.
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| 02-11-2009 02:37 PM |
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Darkartisan
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| 02-11-2009 03:48 PM |
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George2FRESH
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In my Drapion Deck I am currently running Claydol as my draw power. Thing is, it takes up Bench space. And I need all the bench space I can get. I usually have Palkia, 2 Unown K's, and Drapion as my active, and on occasions I got Azelf there. And that could be a problem especially with all the Dusknoirs running around. Should I take Claydol out and just add some more draw power trainers/supporters, or swap him out for Uxie?
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| 02-11-2009 04:00 PM |
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Pokeric
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I think you should toss the Ks. They just cause more bad starts and take up space. I think the Weavile / Palkia build is better.
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| 02-11-2009 04:06 PM |
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The Fallen One
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(02-11-2009 04:00 PM)George2FRESH Wrote: In my Drapion Deck I am currently running Claydol as my draw power. Thing is, it takes up Bench space. And I need all the bench space I can get. I usually have Palkia, 2 Unown K's, and Drapion as my active, and on occasions I got Azelf there. And that could be a problem especially with all the Dusknoirs running around. Should I take Claydol out and just add some more draw power trainers/supporters, or swap him out for Uxie?
Draw power from trainers/supporters sounds to be the best. I might do that with Uxie...but Uxie really helps in Mirror Matches.
(02-11-2009 04:06 PM)Pokeric Wrote: I think you should toss the Ks. They just cause more bad starts and take up space. I think the Weavile / Palkia build is better.
Lock is better than Weavile/Palkia, since it can really, really tank.
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| 02-11-2009 04:12 PM |
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DawnOfXatu
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Alright guys here is my mini-report on Cradily:
Decklist
4-3-4 Cradily
1-0-1 Machamp
2-2 Shaymin Lv.X
2-2 Claydol
2 Crobat G
(23)
4 Rainbow
6 Grass
(10)
4 Fossil Excavator
4 PokeTurn
4 Switch
4 Plus Power
4 Rare Candy
3 Roseanne's Research
3 Buck's Training
1 Miasma Valley
(27)
Description
This decklist doesn't focus too heavily on search cards, it is more focused on hitting hard with the correct support cards. I normally had to give up a card or too before I got everything out, but with Warp Point and a sacrifice of a single Cradily, I can normally setup against my opponent. The Machamp is to help with the Drag and KO against all of the basic techs in the format.
Matchups
Rampy: 2/2
I won every match which was very awsome. The Weakness really did them in alongside the disruption brough by the Drag Out, which helps to completely avoid the effects of Mold Breaker.
Gigas: 4/7
I played most of my time against my friends Gigas, it was just the old Gigas with some newer techs. I managed to get the win by constantly dragging out the charging Gigas on the bench. They need to 2HKO you, and when you heal you completely destroy thier strategy. So I just conserved my PP and Bucks for a couple of KOs. That way I caused need for multiple Sacrifices. Machamp makes this matchup a breeze if you can manage to stall for awhile. It also works wonders for drag and Take Out against the Dialga G Lv.X.
Galactic's Toolbox: 1/2
This was actually a fun matchup, I couldn't manage to get the Cradily out fast enough first round, so I was forced to scoop. The second round I just dragged the Skuntank and Crobat G while I charged more on the bench. The matchup ended after a few turns.
Not too bad, although I still think that I had some massive consistancy issues, I can't think of anything that I want to get rid of.
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(This post was last modified: 02-11-2009 06:49 PM by DawnOfXatu.)
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