1. Scoop Up is a coinflip.
2. If A. Ninetales was gusted out without being OHKOed I don't think your best play is to use your supporter for the turn just to get 2 items - provided you even have another Vulpix benched.
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1. Scoop Up is a coinflip.
2. If A. Ninetales was gusted out without being OHKOed I don't think your best play is to use your supporter for the turn just to get 2 items - provided you even have another Vulpix benched.
If sylvally was good with psychic memory, we would have seen it played a lot more often. Only major appearance was at the European internationals as a top 8, i beLieve. Honestly, the reason that doesn’t work is because field blower stops that in its tracks. I used to think about that being possible, but it really isn’t. Maybe sylvally Ninetales, but that may be a stretch. Also, after rotation diancie prism and beast energy are going to be crucial in a matchup like that, as buzzwole with those two is certainly KOing type null in one shot. I believe we are getting a supporter that finds prism cards, giving buzzwole a small bonus. With those two on the field the buzzwole is doing 80, with weakness 160, almost a OHKO on buzzwole. And it’s not not just buzzwole, there’s baby buzzwole that can screw that up as well. Overall, sylvally is too clunky, as its difficult to constantly have to attach these tool cards. And if you bring sylveon into this, remember there is still judge! It might not be as powerful as N, but in a situation like this it will work. Overall, buzzwole isn’t gone, it’s changing ,adapting. Go ask my friend Merovingian if you want to know more, as they pretty much explained this to me.
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True, I just thought these two might work in this scenario, by the way there is no such thing as just two items. Just two items could win the game.
Yeah, but relying on your opponent to gust A. Ninetales and miss the KO so that you can Acerola for the exact two items that will win you the game is really sketchy.
What do you mean gust?
Field blower is only prominent right now because Garbotoxin is still a thing in this rotation.
It's not a thing anymore post rotation, and I don't see people play more than 2 field blowers in decks for post rotation (in Japan anyway). Most decks go for 1 or 0, and as far as I'm concerned, 2 Field Blowers can't completely remove 3 or 4 copies of Memory played one at a time. You will always get your OHKO if you attach at the right time.
It's not flawless, but field blower isn't a one card solution that makes Silvally GX irrelivant. Not post rotation, anyway. Copies of Field Blower are naturally going down post rotation due to both Garbotoxin leaving and the fact that consistency has dropped with Brigette/Sycamore/N rotating out, meaning more consistency cards like Nest Ball will take more deck slots to focus on having a game at all.
I'm not saying it's an impervious strategy that's going to blow the meta away. I just think that Silvally GX stands a better chance post rotation than it does now.
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Gust_of_Wind_(Base_Set_93)
It's quicker to type than Guzma/Bloodthirsty Eyes/Lysandre/Counter Catcher etc.
Also, with the translation update, Mimikyu GX is actually servicable now. 30 per 10 is significantly better than 10 per 10.
It's a shame that most of its good partners are Stage 2s like Decidueye GX and Greninja GX
If i'm not mistaken, Promo cards like when N got a new full art are labeled as Alternatives and still rotate properly. I'm not sure what type of Promo it is, but if it's an alternative then it's still rotating. If it's not rotating, then I honestly will avoid this year's meta as well. I know many people will disagree with me, but I think that Garbotoxin is just unhealthy for the game. I've never enjoyed playing against or with Garbotoxin and I never will.
We can go back and forth on Field Blower all day. For me, I only ever played it for Garbotoxin and Fighting Fury Belt. I place a lot lower value on the card than most others do, and that's just how it is.
It's a shame that most of its good partners are Stage 2s like Decidueye GX and Greninja GX
If i'm not mistaken, Promo cards like when N got a new full art are labeled as Alternatives and still rotate properly. I'm not sure what type of Promo it is, but if it's an alternative then it's still rotating. If it's not rotating, then I honestly will avoid this year's meta as well. I know many people will disagree with me, but I think that Garbotoxin is just unhealthy for the game. I've never enjoyed playing against or with Garbotoxin and I never will.
We can go back and forth on Field Blower all day. For me, I only ever played it for Garbotoxin and Fighting Fury Belt. I place a lot lower value on the card than most others do, and that's just how it is.
My fave gen 7 pokemon gets the worst gx card
Here is to hoping that the text was too blurry to translate correctly.
All of these cards are good, but:
A. Ninetales > Mimikyu > Gardevoir
I think the significant part here, is that A.Ninetales deals spread damage.
You can soften up targets, pull up a healthy one, and take a free-KO.
Now your opponent is left with a bunch of weakened Pokemon, which makes this:
a less appealing option, as after they KO you, you will likely be able to KO back; maintaining an advantage.
This is true, however, Sylveon-GX struggles more with closing out games.
It's attacks are very linear, which is why it's mainly used in stall decks, or for setting up something else.
Not sure why you're against Acerola in this deck.
You can use it while A.Ninetales is active, so I don't understand the gust argument.
I think Acerola is great here, and gives A.Ninetales a lot of potential.
Speaking of...
Mimikyu/A.Ninetales works.
One spread, will make Mimikyu deal 100 damage, 130 total.
Which KOs most non-GX.
I feel like the consistency of A.Ninetales is being overlooked a bit.
Especially going into a meta with less draw supporters.
It doesn't even use DCE; 2 attachments of basic energy let it start attacking.
With Diantha, you can easily chain evolutions/attackers, and keep up a consistent threat.
This also allows you to go for a stalling route; since you can grab any items you want, and reuse them later.
I'm only worried about Tapu Koko Promo because of Stakataka GX making it possible to do actually 0 damage fairly easily, but I do think that mixing it with Necrozma + Lele package is a great idea. I think the Necrozma + Lele combo is kind of a good idea in any deck that can load the energy on quickly enough for it.
I haven't played it myself, but I have seen it run at a competitive level. Most of the reason why I haven't played it myself is because I just simply lost interest in this rotation a few months ago due to the meta and, well, Garbotoxin making the game incredibly boring for me. I'm not sure if I would ever play it though, just because the first impression attack style just doesn't really work in my head. I can't wrap my brain around it, strangely.
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I do think there is potential that I'm underestimating Alolan Ninetales. It's just hard for me to look at cards like this in isolation and determine whether or not it'll be good, since honestly whether or not it will be good will depend on the rest of the deck. I don't think it's a self explanatory attacker like Gardevoir GX was at the time, and I guess you could just see Alolan Ninetales GX as a Buzzwole GX that searches items and has a 40 damage stronger Jet Punch at face value. I dunno. I'll wait and see until the rest of the set comes out. I just don't like it at a glance. I'd need to see it in the context of a full deck list that has a turn-by-turn strategy. I believe the 70/30 split also looks unfavorable to me due to Stakataka GX. Low base damage values just aren't appealing when a card that can OHKO you also can potentially make you do 40/0.
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Mimikyu goes from extra 10 damage to extra 30 per damage counter on opponents pokemon...
to quote Krillen from DBZ abridged "Just went from a 9 to a 10..."
LOL
Can't wait to get my hands on these... Dual type Alolan Ninetails would be interesting to build.
Mimikyu goes from extra 10 damage to extra 30 per damage counter on opponents pokemon...
to quote Krillen from DBZ abridged "Just went from a 9 to a 10..."
LOL
Can't wait to get my hands on these... Dual type Alolan Ninetails would be interesting to build.
The Necrozma Tapu Lele combo cannot be used in all decks since Tapu Lele requires either Psychic Energy or Fairy Energy. This restricts the options to certain decks. We will have to see the remaining cards in this set but Stakataka can be countered with Alolan Muk since none of the cards we consider for a Fairy spread deck require abilities on Basic Pokémon to work. Naganadel Stakataka is a decent deck but none of the deck choices we have at the moment are without limitations which is a good thing.