Discussion Ultra Prism Partial and Almost Official Set List

Gameguard

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So japon set 144 ours is 156. This excluding hyper and secret rares. So means we get 12 cards from other sets from the fall. Can we make a list of what they be. I assume silvally item cards will be but whats the other 10
 

jessalakasam

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So japon set 144 ours is 156. This excluding hyper and secret rares. So means we get 12 cards from other sets from the fall. Can we make a list of what they be. I assume silvally item cards will be but whats the other 10
We know 3 UB GXs and 1 GX will be from another set (likely Naganadel is one of them IMO.)
 

Mr. Rhyperior

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I don’t think there can be a space between Volkner and Super Boost Energy, since the current list has 18 Trainers and 3 Special Energy, as advertised.

As it stands, I believe that TCPi is counting the reprints of the previous Ultra Beasts (Pheromosa, Xurkitree, Celesteela) towards their UB and GX counts. It kinda makes sense from a marketing perspective to advertise your new set as having “FIVE ULTRA BEASTS” rather than a measly two (the Necrozma formes).

If this were true, we know all the UBs in the set, and nine of the ten GXs. My personal vote for the tenth is Palossand, since it’s an older promo, but it wouldn’t be unreasonable to assume Alolan Raticate.

I realized the 18-trainer advertisment. So I update the partial list + Possible SRs.
 

Mr. Rhyperior

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There's also the 3 Special Energy advertisement, as @Timmony_tcg also mentioned, so I don't think adding DCE is correct. Also, is it on purpose that 17-42 and 52-102 has their numbers listed twice?
1.) I think I omit DCE and replace Forest Silvally
2.) I am so tardy.

Edit: Done!
 
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TheMaskedMeowth

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So honestly I think the Silvally-GX should be replaced with the Silvally from GX Battle Boost, the shiny version of which was released as a promo here already. And then the Type: Null would be the original print from GX Battle Boost. That still of course begs the question of where the hell the other 4 GXs are coming from, my money's on some coming over from SM5+, but we're already losing Lucario-GX. We could have Poipole and Naganadel-GX but that would put us at 4 UBs, and filling only one is kind of hard to do. So I dunno. I have a preliminary set list myself but it only has 6 GXs.
 

jessalakasam

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So honestly I think the Silvally-GX should be replaced with the Silvally from GX Battle Boost, the shiny version of which was released as a promo here already.
1. The only Silvally in GX Battle Boost was "Forest" Silvally GX
2. The only Shiny Silvally we have gotten so far was the GX
2. Are you referring to the one from the Sparkling Silvally GET Campaign?
3. If so, you have it backwards Japan got the Shiny, we got the regular
4. We aren't going to get the shiny (see Baby Koko)
 

TheMaskedMeowth

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1. The only Silvally in GX Battle Boost was "Forest" Silvally GX
2. The only Shiny Silvally we have gotten so far was the GX
2. Are you referring to the one from the Sparkling Silvally GET Campaign?
3. If so, you have it backwards Japan got the Shiny, we got the regular
4. We aren't going to get the shiny (see Baby Koko)

1. I was referring to the one from the same deck set that the Solgaleo-GX, Lunala-GX, and Dusk Lycanroc were coming from.
2. Yeah you're right, we did get that one already. Getting the shiny would be kinda ridiculous.
2. You had 2 #2s so I think I should get 2 as well.
3. I think it's unlikely that we get a straight, regular art reprint of a GX we just got in the last set, outside of a promo.
4. It seems more likely to keep in 2 of the item cards he left out (Rare Candy and Sophocles is what I left in), or keep in Sophocles and SM4+ Type: Null
 

steffenka

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1. I was referring to the one from the same deck set that the Solgaleo-GX, Lunala-GX, and Dusk Lycanroc were coming from.
2. Yeah you're right, we did get that one already. Getting the shiny would be kinda ridiculous.
2. You had 2 #2s so I think I should get 2 as well.
3. I think it's unlikely that we get a straight, regular art reprint of a GX we just got in the last set, outside of a promo.
4. It seems more likely to keep in 2 of the item cards he left out (Rare Candy and Sophocles is what I left in), or keep in Sophocles and SM4+ Type: Null
Just because I am currently a little confused and also a little curious, can you post your list (or at least what you have so far)?
 

jessalakasam

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Prism Star cards take the rev slot. You can also get a GX in the same pack as a Prism Star

New set list:
  1. Exeggcute
  2. Yanma
  3. Yanmega
  4. Roselia
  5. Roserade
  6. Turtwig
  7. Turtwig
  8. Grotle
  9. Torterra
  10. Cherubi
  11. Cherrim
  12. Carnivine
  13. Leafeon GX
  14. Mow Rotom
  15. Shaymin
  16. Dewpider
  17. Araquanid
  18. Magmar
  19. Magmortar
  20. Chimchar
  21. Chimchar
  22. Monferno
  23. Infernape
  24. Heat Rotom
  25. Salandit
  26. Salazzle
  27. Turtonator
  28. Alolan Sandshrew
  29. Alolan Sandslash
  30. Alolan Vulpix
  31. Piplup
  32. Piplup
  33. Prinplup
  34. Empoleon
  35. Buizel
  36. Floatzel
  37. Snover
  38. Abomasnow
  39. Glaceon GX
  40. Wash Rotom
  41. Frost Rotom
  42. Manaphy
  43. Electabuzz
  44. Electivire
  45. Shinx
  46. Shinx
  47. Luxio
  48. Luxray
  49. Pachirisu
  50. Rotom
  51. Drifloon
  52. Drifblim
  53. Spiritomb
  54. Skorupi
  55. Drapion
  56. Croagunk
  57. Toxicroak
  58. Giratina Prism Star
  59. Cresselia
  60. Cosmog
  61. Cosmoem
  62. Lunala Prism Star
  63. Dawn Wings Necrozma GX
  64. Cranidos
  65. Rampardos
  66. Riolu
  67. Lucario
  68. Hippopotas
  69. Hippowdon
  70. Passimian
  71. Murkrow
  72. Honchkrow
  73. Sneasel
  74. Weavile
  75. Stunky
  76. Skuntank
  77. Darkrai Prism Star
  78. Alolan Diglett
  79. Alolan Dugtrio
  80. Magnemite
  81. Magnemite
  82. Magneton
  83. Magnezone
  84. Shieldon
  85. Bastiodon
  86. Bronzor
  87. Bronzong
  88. Heatran
  89. Solgaleo Prism Star
  90. Dusk Mane Necrozma GX
  91. Magearna
  92. Morelull
  93. Shiinotic
  94. Tapu Lele
  95. Alolan Exeggutor
  96. Gible
  97. Gible
  98. Gabite
  99. Garchomp
  100. Dialga GX
  101. Palkia GX
  102. Lickitung
  103. Lickilicky
  104. Eevee
  105. Eevee
  106. Buneary
  107. Lopunny
  108. Glameow
  109. Purugly
  110. Fan Rotom
  111. Shaymin
  112. Yungoos
  113. Gumshoos
  114. Oranguru
  115. Type: Null
  116. Silvally GX
  117. Drampa
  118. Ancient Crystal
  119. Cynthia
  120. Cyrus Prism Star
  121. Electric Memory
  122. Escape Board
  123. Fire Memory
  124. Gardenia
  125. Lillie
  126. Looker
  127. Looker's Whistle
  128. Mars
  129. Missing Clover
  130. Mt. Coronet
  131. Order Pad
  132. Pal Pad
  133. Pokemon Fan Club
  134. Unidentified Fossil
  135. Volkner
  136. Super Boost Energy Prism Star
  137. Unit Energy GRW
  138. Unit Energy LPM
  139. Leafeon GX
  140. Pheromosa GX
  141. Glaceon GX
  142. Xurkitree GX
  143. Dawn Wings Necrozma GX
  144. Celesteela GX
  145. Dusk Mane Necrozma GX
  146. Dialga GX
  147. Palkia GX
  148. Cynthia
  149. Gardenia
  150. Lana
  151. Lillie
  152. Looker
  153. Lusamine
  154. Mars
  155. Pokemon Fan Club
  156. Volkner
  157. Leafeon GX RR *
  158. Pheromosa GX RR *
  159. Glaceon GX RR *
  160. Xurkitree GX RR *
  161. Dawn Wings Necrozma GX RR *
  162. Celesteela GX RR *
  163. Dusk Mane Necrozma GX RR *
  164. Dialga GX RR *
  165. Palkia GX RR *
  166. Crushing Hammer SR *
  167. Escape Board SR *
  168. Missing Clover SR *
  169. Peeking Red Card SR *
  170. Unit Energy GRW SR *
  171. Unit Energy LPM SR *
  172. Lunala GX SR?*
  173. Solgaleo GX SR?*
 
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Timmony_tcg

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I'll save @Mr. Rhyperior some time here. Confirmed cards:
#2 Yanma
#4 Roselia
#6 Turtwig
#8 Grotle
#16 Dewpider
#21 Chimchar
#30 Alolan Vulpix
#31 Piplup
#32 Piplup
#33 Prinplup
#34 Empoleon
#26 Alolan Sandshrew
#40 Wash Rotom
#42 Manaphy
#43 Electabuzz
#44 Electivire
#49 Pachirisu
#55 Drapion
#61 Cosmoem (not sure why he's here)
#64 Cranidos
#71 Murkrow
#73 Sneasel
#76 Skuntank
#83 Magnezone
#86 Bronzor
#87 Bronzong
#96 Gible
#97 Gible
#105 Eevee
#111 Shaymin (Sky Form)
#112 Yungoos
#113 Gumshoos
#114 Oranguru
#115 Type: Null
#119 Cynthia (it's not holo)
#123 Fire Memory
#125 Lillie (Z-Power Form)
#129 Missing Clover
#133 Pokemon Fan Club
#135 Volkner
#156 Volkner (Full Art)

Confirmed cards:
#? Pachirisu
#? Croagunk
#? Toxicroak
#? Stunky (probably 75 but not 100% confirmed)

New Info.:
Prism Star cards take the rev slot

New set list:
  1. Exeggcute
  2. Yanma
  3. Yanmega
  4. Roselia
  5. Roserade
  6. Turtwig
  7. Turtwig
  8. Grotle
  9. Torterra
  10. Cherubi
  11. Cherrim
  12. Carnivine
  13. Leafeon GX
  14. Mow Rotom
  15. Shaymin
  16. Dewpider
  17. Araquanid
  18. Magmar
  19. Magmortar
  20. Chimchar
  21. Chimchar
  22. Monferno
  23. Infernape
  24. Heat Rotom
  25. Turtonator
  26. Alolan Sandshrew
  27. Alolan Sandslash
  28. ?
  29. ?
  30. Alolan Vulpix
  31. Piplup
  32. Piplup
  33. Prinplup
  34. Empoleon
  35. Buizel
  36. Floatzel
  37. Snover
  38. Abomasnow
  39. Glaceon GX
  40. Wash Rotom
  41. Frost Rotom
  42. Manaphy
  43. Electabuzz
  44. Electivire
  45. Shinx
  46. Shinx
  47. Luxio
  48. Luxray
  49. Pachirisu
  50. Rotom
  51. Drifloon
  52. Drifblim
  53. Spiritomb
  54. Skorupi
  55. Drapion
  56. Croagunk
  57. Toxicroak
  58. Giratina Prism Star
  59. Cresselia
  60. Cosmog
  61. Cosmoem
  62. Lunala Prism Star
  63. Dawn Wings Necrozma GX
  64. Cranidos
  65. Rampardos
  66. Riolu
  67. Lucario
  68. Hippopotas
  69. Hippowdon
  70. Passimian
  71. Murkrow
  72. Honchkrow
  73. Sneasel
  74. Weavile
  75. Stunky
  76. Skuntank
  77. Darkrai Prism Star
  78. Alolan Diglett
  79. Alolan Dugtrio
  80. Magnemite
  81. Magnemite
  82. Magneton
  83. Magnezone
  84. Shieldon
  85. Bastiodon
  86. Bronzor
  87. Bronzong
  88. Heatran
  89. Solgaleo Prism Star
  90. Dusk Mane Necrozma GX
  91. Magearna
  92. Morelull
  93. Shiinotic
  94. Tapu Lele
  95. Alolan Exeggutor
  96. Gible
  97. Gible
  98. Gabite
  99. Garchomp
  100. Dialga GX
  101. Palkia GX
  102. Lickitung
  103. Lickilicky
  104. Eevee
  105. Eevee
  106. Buneary
  107. Lopunny
  108. Glameow
  109. Purugly
  110. Fan Rotom
  111. Shaymin
  112. Yungoos
  113. Gumshoos
  114. Oranguru
  115. Type: Null
  116. Silvally GX
  117. Drampa
  118. Ancient Crystal
  119. Cynthia
  120. Cyrus Prism Star
  121. Electric Memory
  122. Escape Board
  123. Fire Memory
  124. Gardenia
  125. Lillie
  126. Looker
  127. Looker's Whistle
  128. Mars
  129. Missing Clover
  130. Mount Coronet
  131. Mysterious Fossil
  132. Pal Pad
  133. Pokemon Fan Club
  134. Order pad (different name)
  135. Volkner
  136. Super Boost Energy Prism Star
  137. Unit Energy GRW
  138. Unit Energy LPM
  139. Leafeon GX
  140. Pheromosa GX
  141. Glaceon GX
  142. Xurkitree GX
  143. Dawn Wings Necrozma GX
  144. Celesteela GX
  145. Dusk Mane Necrozma GX
  146. Dialga GX
  147. Palkia GX
  148. Cynthia
  149. Gardenia
  150. Lana
  151. Lillie
  152. Looker
  153. Lusamine
  154. Mars
  155. Pokemon Fan Club
  156. Volkner
  157. Leafeon GX RR *
  158. Pheromosa GX RR *
  159. Glaceon GX RR *
  160. Xurkitree GX RR *
  161. Dawn Wings Necrozma GX RR *
  162. Celesteela GX RR *
  163. Dusk Mane Necrozma GX RR *
  164. Dialga GX RR *
  165. Palkia GX RR *
  166. Lunala GX SR *
  167. Solgaleo GX RR *
  168. Crushing Hammer SR *
  169. Escape Board SR *
  170. Missing Clover SR *
  171. Pal Pad SR *
  172. Unit Energy GRW SR *
  173. Unit Energy LPM SR *
Sorry, I’m a little lost - how could there be two open slots between A-Sandslash and A-Vulpix when there are no other Water/Ice types between them in the Pokédex?

EDIT: I just realized that you accidentally omitted the Salandit/Salazzle from SM4 from your updated set list - that’s why there were two open slots there

EDIT #2: Sorry to keep nitpicking like this, but there is no SR Pal Pad (at least AFAIK) - I think #171 should be Peeping Red Card SR
 
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jessalakasam

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Sorry, I’m a little lost - how could there be two open slots between A-Sandslash and A-Vulpix when there are no other Water/Ice types between them in the Pokédex?

EDIT: I just realized that you accidentally omitted the Salandit/Salazzle from SM4 from your updated set list - that’s why there were two open slots there

EDIT #2: Sorry to keep nitpicking like this, but there is no SR Pal Pad (at least AFAIK) - I think #171 should be Peeping Red Card SR
They didn't fit and I had to cut them to get Sandshrew down to 26

EDIT: Ithink you're right I saw it wrong
 
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Chimecho3000

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Cool info, so Prism Stars are like the new BREAK cards in rarity it seems. I'm happy with that. Cynthia not a holo...if that's the case it better be uncommon then. It should either be uncommon or holo rare, they better not have gone inbetween and made it a regular rare...

The speculated list appears to be fully accurate other than Tapu Fini removed and Cosmoem added. Not surprised Tapu Fini is removed; it and Tapu Bulu should be put into the inevitable Tapu Bulu/Fini Pin Collections. Cosmoem was probably reprinted so that it will still be available when Sun & Moon gets rotated. This set is probably the most appropriate set to include it since there is a new Cosmog in it (and Solgaleo & Lunala appear in some form in this set). Is Cosmoem still a rare in this set?

Who thinks the gold Solgaleo GX and Lunala GX will be included in this set? I'm kinda hoping it does, as they're cool and it rounds the set to a nice 175 assuming everything else is correct, but also not because this set already has a truck ton of ultra rares and secret rares as it is....gonna be near impossible to fully collect.
 

steffenka

Miss Vaanjie
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Cool info, so Prism Stars are like the new BREAK cards in rarity it seems. I'm happy with that. Cynthia not a holo...if that's the case it better be uncommon then. It should either be uncommon or holo rare, they better not have gone inbetween and made it a regular rare...

The speculated list appears to be fully accurate other than Tapu Fini removed and Cosmoem added. Not surprised Tapu Fini is removed; it and Tapu Bulu should be put into the inevitable Tapu Bulu/Fini Pin Collections. Cosmoem was probably reprinted so that it will still be available when Sun & Moon gets rotated. This set is probably the most appropriate set to include it since there is a new Cosmog in it (and Solgaleo & Lunala appear in some form in this set). Is Cosmoem still a rare in this set?

Who thinks the gold Solgaleo GX and Lunala GX will be included in this set? I'm kinda hoping it does, as they're cool and it rounds the set to a nice 175 assuming everything else is correct, but also not because this set already has a truck ton of ultra rares and secret rares as it is....gonna be near impossible to fully collect.
Based on what I've seen, both Cosmoem and Cynthia seem to be uncommon cards, along with Manaphy - surprisingly
 

The Ultimate Umbreon

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If the alternate type cards got cut, that would remove Dewpider (16), Araquanid (17), Morelull (92), Shiinotic (93) and Tapu Lele (94). This could leave room for the Alolan Raticate GX, as well as the accompanying Alolan Rattata, and maybe also the Beast Ball and Phione promos. Though there still is those darn Ultra Beasts...
Maybe the Fire & Electric Memories are released with the GX Battle Boost Silvally in a promo box?
Could but the Type: Null reprint with that box too.
 

steffenka

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New set list:
  1. Exeggcute
  2. Yanma
  3. Yanmega
  4. Roselia
  5. Roserade
  6. Turtwig
  7. Turtwig
  8. Grotle
  9. Torterra
  10. Cherubi
  11. Cherrim
  12. Carnivine
  13. Leafeon GX
  14. Mow Rotom
  15. Shaymin
  16. Dewpider
  17. Araquanid
  18. Magmar
  19. Magmortar
  20. Chimchar
  21. Chimchar
  22. Monferno
  23. Infernape
  24. Heat Rotom
  25. Salandit
  26. Salazzle
  27. Turtonator
  28. Alolan Sandshrew
  29. Alolan Sandslash
  30. Alolan Vulpix
  31. Piplup
  32. Piplup
  33. Prinplup
  34. Empoleon
  35. Buizel
  36. Floatzel
  37. Snover
  38. Abomasnow
  39. Glaceon GX
  40. Wash Rotom
  41. Frost Rotom
  42. Manaphy
  43. Electabuzz
  44. Electivire
  45. Shinx
  46. Shinx
  47. Luxio
  48. Luxray
  49. Pachirisu
  50. Rotom
  51. Drifloon
  52. Drifblim
  53. Spiritomb
  54. Skorupi
  55. Drapion
  56. Croagunk
  57. Toxicroak
  58. Giratina Prism Star
  59. Cresselia
  60. Cosmog
  61. Cosmoem
  62. Lunala Prism Star
  63. Dawn Wings Necrozma GX
  64. Cranidos
  65. Rampardos
  66. Riolu
  67. Lucario
  68. Hippopotas
  69. Hippowdon
  70. Passimian
  71. Murkrow
  72. Honchkrow
  73. Sneasel
  74. Weavile
  75. Stunky
  76. Skuntank
  77. Darkrai Prism Star
  78. Alolan Diglett
  79. Alolan Dugtrio
  80. Magnemite
  81. Magnemite
  82. Magneton
  83. Magnezone
  84. Shieldon
  85. Bastiodon
  86. Bronzor
  87. Bronzong
  88. Heatran
  89. Solgaleo Prism Star
  90. Dusk Mane Necrozma GX
  91. Magearna
  92. Morelull
  93. Shiinotic
  94. Tapu Lele
  95. Alolan Exeggutor
  96. Gible
  97. Gible
  98. Gabite
  99. Garchomp
  100. Dialga GX
  101. Palkia GX
  102. Lickitung
  103. Lickilicky
  104. Eevee
  105. Eevee
  106. Buneary
  107. Lopunny
  108. Glameow
  109. Purugly
  110. Fan Rotom
  111. Shaymin
  112. Yungoos
  113. Gumshoos
  114. Oranguru
  115. Type: Null
  116. Silvally GX
  117. Drampa
  118. Ancient Crystal
  119. Cynthia
  120. Cyrus Prism Star
  121. Electric Memory
  122. Escape Board
  123. Fire Memory
  124. Gardenia
  125. Lillie
  126. Looker
  127. Looker's Whistle
  128. Mars
  129. Missing Clover
  130. Mount Coronet
  131. Mysterious Fossil
  132. Pal Pad
  133. Pokemon Fan Club
  134. Order pad (different name)
  135. Volkner
  136. Super Boost Energy Prism Star
  137. Unit Energy GRW
  138. Unit Energy LPM
  139. Leafeon GX
  140. Pheromosa GX
  141. Glaceon GX
  142. Xurkitree GX
  143. Dawn Wings Necrozma GX
  144. Celesteela GX
  145. Dusk Mane Necrozma GX
  146. Dialga GX
  147. Palkia GX
  148. Cynthia
  149. Gardenia
  150. Lana
  151. Lillie
  152. Looker
  153. Lusamine
  154. Mars
  155. Pokemon Fan Club
  156. Volkner
  157. Leafeon GX RR *
  158. Pheromosa GX RR *
  159. Glaceon GX RR *
  160. Xurkitree GX RR *
  161. Dawn Wings Necrozma GX RR *
  162. Celesteela GX RR *
  163. Dusk Mane Necrozma GX RR *
  164. Dialga GX RR *
  165. Palkia GX RR *
  166. Lunala GX SR *
  167. Solgaleo GX RR *
  168. Crushing Hammer SR *
  169. Escape Board SR *
  170. Missing Clover SR *
  171. Peeking Red Card SR *
  172. Unit Energy GRW SR *
  173. Unit Energy LPM SR *
The Mysterious Fossil is now called Unidentified Fossil, the Order Pad is still called Order Pad and the Fairy-type Tapu Lele is in the set is what I've gathered after watching a booster box being opened
 

jessalakasam

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Updated my list. Looks like Solgaleo and Lunala SR probably aren't in the set. I put them at the end of the list anyway
 
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