Alolan Grimer from SM3!

Alolan Grimer from SM3 has been revealed, which means a Dark-type Alolan Muk will also be in the set! This is the TCG’s second Alolan Grimer.

SM3 will be released in Japan on June 16th and in America on August 4th. Thanks goes to Rhonda D. for the translation!

Alolan Grimer – Darkness – HP80
Basic Pokemon

[.] Multiply: Search your deck for Alolan Grimer and put it onto your Bench. Then, shuffle your deck.

[C][C] Trip Sludge: Your opponent’s Active Pokemon is now Confused.

Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: Psychic (-20)
Retreat: 3

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  1. Clamtrak Aspiring Trainer
    Clamtrak

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    Is Alolan Muk gonna be the next Greninja BREAK or something?
     
  2. TheFlyingPidove Aspiring Trainer
    TheFlyingPidove

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    What a game changer!
    This is really the end of Mega Ray. :U
     
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  3. Vitiel Mush. Up!
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    I was hoping for a Darkness-type Alolan Grimer/Muk sometime, didn't think it would be this soon. That first attack though... yeesh. Especially scary with the Alolan Muk we already have.
     
  4. theprp30 Aspiring Trainer
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    Ho-oh get nothing like usual and Necrozma becomes one of my favorite cards ever.
     
  5. George Aspiring Trainer
    George

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    Well, Typhlosion/Ho-oh GX? use Ho-oh to get out Typhlosion Turn 1, and use Pokedex and Malow to get at least 2 or more Fire Energies on top? (reply if you guys think this idea might be good...)
     
  6. Vitiel Mush. Up!
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    Typhlosion isn't a GX/EX.
     
  7. MechanicalMarine Princess Peach
    MechanicalMarine

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    I think the other Alolan Grimer from SM1 is better. Not that it really matters, but if you ever are put in a situation where you have to attack with Grimer for some reason, poison is better than just searching out another Grimer. Most decks only play a 1-1 or a 2-2 line of Alolan Muk at most, and even then, most decks play Garbodor BKP anyways. However, in terms of art, I like the new one more. And it's a dark type, which is cool I guess.
     
  8. anthony7245 Aspiring Trainer
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    I feel like Ho-oh could be really viable we just need to figure out how. Maybe a rayquaza fire deck? Idk
     
  9. thflame Aspiring Trainer
    thflame

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    I think Ho-oh GX is pretty underrated. It's not like we don't have any decent Fire acceleration. (Baby Volc, Max Elixir, Turtonator GX)

    180 is an OHKO on most basics. Add a Choice Band or a Steam Up and we OHKO most Stage 1s. Add both or 2 Steam Ups, and we OHKO almost everything.

    Alternatively, we can give Ho-oh a FFB, boosting it's HP to 230, and swinging for 190 (OHKO on all basics except Wishiwashi GX and Wailord EX in expanded). One Steam up gets us 220, 2 gets us 250, the current HP cap.

    Heck, in between Phoenix Burns, we can soften up problem Pokes with Sacred Fire.

    The GX attack is highly dependent on whether or not we get a good Charizard GX (or another fire type GX in the future), though, Volcanion EX probably wouldn't mind the free search.

    Finally, weakness to Lightning makes Ho-oh a good tech in Volcanion just to counter Water Box, Ninetails, and other Volc decks.

    The only way I see Necrozma GX working is with Metagross GX, unless we get some new Psychic Energy acceleration. Sure, it can wall Mega Ray, Drampa, and Tauros, but Mega Ray plays Hex, and Drampa and Tauros are usually partners for other types.
     
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  10. postmodern_pinko So postmodern
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    Necrozma-GX + Honchkrow from Guardians Rising. 3 EX-GXs and you immediately blow the HP cap out of the water lmao.

    I can also see Necrozma in decks that specifically fear M-Ray, sort of like Aegislash-EX for ah, decks that escape me atm.

    Ho-Oh-GX will be good. It's frankly silly to write it off so quickly when it's so painfully obvious what's coming. I mean, it's probably easier to pull off than an Archie's/Maxie's since it doesn't need a whole engine built around it. And you get up to three so, in my eyes, lower risk, higher reward than an already well played archetype.
     
  11. Ecourts Wanderer | Lvl.2
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    I like your optimism towards the new Ho-Oh~
    I was thinking about trying it out in Volcanion, but it seems like a "win-more" card.

    The reason I say this, is because:
    Volcanion already doesn't have trouble OHKOing.
    130 + Choice Band + Steam-Up = 190

    Which, as you stated, will kill most basics.

    What's important to think about, is what it means for Ho-Ohs attack to cost 1 more energy.
    This is an additional attachment or energy to accelerate.
    That's one turn behind, and/or one less steam-up.

    With that one energy, you could swing for 220, instead of 190... which... I think kills anything that's relevant in the meta, except Lapras + FFB, but that's just one additional steam up on a card that's already kind of slow setting up.
    Especially since Decidueye and Solgaleo are already weak to fire.

    and there's almost no situation in which I would want to use Ho-Oh's GX attack over Turtonator's.
    Especially since:
    1. Pokemon Stretcher is a thing.
    2. Oricorio does the same thing, but it's from the deck, isn't limited to EXs and GXs, and doesn't use your once per game GX attack.​

    There's already a lot of cards competing to get into the Volcanion deck (ex. Starmie), and I just don't see this card offering enough to warrant a spot.
     
  12. jakedun 2093 Pokemon TCG Elders Divison World Champion
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    Actually not totally Ray could bump up to 2 or 3 Hex and just kill them by doing 240
     
  13. ZygardeGuy Baba ba wawa ha ha ba ba
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    That is the worst GX attack ever on Ho oh GX
    I prefer better like Solgaleo GX, Tapu Koko GX, or Tapu Lele GX
     
  14. SceptileSquad Leaf Blade!
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    Alolan Muk GX?
     
  15. NinJamezor ZA WARUDO
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    I'm definitely playing Necrozma-GX with Metagross-GX, hands down.

    Also, why another Grimer?
     
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  16. FlavorfulPineApl Favorite Deck: Vespiquen
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    Necrozma I see broken (not really) Ultra beasts in the TCG isn't something I expected.

    I see they made the Gx attack not more than 100, so no Shaymin snipe.
     
  17. crystal_pidgeot Bird Trainer *Vaporeon on PokeGym*
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    Yeah but then you can't use those GX attacks since you're burning it to get those mons into play. I don't mind that though. I just wonder how they plan on balancing fire types because of that GX move?
     
  18. Ramo0927 Stay away. I am literal cancer.
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    Probably because they might make Alolan Muk GX. If they don't, then idk what, because that would be a pretty stupid move on TPCI
     
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  19. DaGod503 Aspiring Trainer
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    Yeah I would think there might be an alolan muk gx or a dark alolan muk
     
  20. GekkisaiDaiNi #GekkiLogic/#GekkiFails
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    I'd like an Alolan Muk-GX, I'm kinda fond of the rainbow sludge :)